Re: NY ranks #1 in Internet b/w

["Martin J. Levy" <mahtin () mahtin com>]

> Hm, I'm still waiting to witness a traceroute from Europe to Asia or the
> Pacific that doesn't go over the US for the first time. ...

You will find that there are many routes from Europe to Asia (and back again) that don't run via the US.  Two 
examples...

  http://www.bbeng.gxn.net/cgi-bin/lg.pl?query=trace&addr=www.hkt.net&router=Amsterdam1

  http://www.bbeng.gxn.net/cgi-bin/lg.pl?query=trace&addr=www.singnet.com.sg&router=Amsterdam1

I'm sure there are many more.  There are a few cables that run between Europe and Asia (SMW3 and Flag) that are good 
communications routes for non-US-transiting traffic.

Martin

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At 01:09 PM 11/2/2001 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Nipper, Arnold wrote:
>
> > But if you look at trunks going into *another* country the same report comes
> > to this ranking.
>
> >  London
> >  Paris
> >  New York
> >  Amsterdam
> >  Frankfurt
>
> > This report also says that the relevance of US for Internet is decreasing.
>
> Hm, I'm still waiting to witness a traceroute from Europe to Asia or the
> Pacific that doesn't go over the US for the first time. Are there subs
> that can lay undersea cables yet? A cable from Northern Europe to Japan
> and the US North West under the North Pole icecap would be great.
>
> > As ever:  never trust a statistic unless you faked it yourself ...
>
> But one thing is obvious: we IP people put our stuff where we think we
> want it, not where it should go looking from a redundancy/vulnerability
> standpoint.
>
> If I want to send a packet from The Hague to Philadelphia, the packet will
> almost certainly pass Amsterdam and New York, two places where huge
> amounts of traffic can easily be disrupted. If the IP routers were to be
> placed closer to the places where seacables surface, this problem would go
> away: all those major hubs are serviced by multiple fiber landing
> locations.