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RE: Stealth Blocking
From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:11:27 -0700
Third, the new 'rule' MAPS just came up with now is that you must keep your server open to their 'testing', or they'll blackhole you. See for yourself: http://www.dotcomeon.com/nph-rss-remove-blocking.html That is the reason given for blocking us the second time around. No new 'evidence', just open wide for inspection and say ahhh...
Uhhh... so how do you propose that relays are tested to make sure they're closed before being removed from the database?
This is the very thing they considered abusive just a few months ago. Wasn't it MAPS that blocked ORBS for scanning Abovenet's ports in the first place? So now they took their rival's worst rules and made it their own. Now it's my turn to say absolute rubbish.
You're obscuring a very fundamental difference. ORBS scans everyone, with no provocation. This is like checking if your neighbor's gun is loaded while it's in his safe. MAPS scans those who have created problems for its customers in the past. This is like checking if your neighbor's gun is loaded while it's pointing at you. Once you connect to me, and in so doing create a problem for me, you have no right to complain when I connect back to you. But if you connect to me without provocation to search me for vulnerabilities, that's a horse of another color. DS
Current thread:
- Re: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Scott Raymond (May 25)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 25)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Andy (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking J.D. Falk (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Scott Francis (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Margie Arbon (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Aaron L. Meehan (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Vivien M. (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Alex Bligh (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Christopher B. Zydel (May 23)