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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: "Jeremy T. Bouse" <undrgrid () Toons UnderGrid net>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:43:11 -0700
Mitch Halmu was said to been seen saying:
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:Okay, I don't want to perpetuate this lil battle more than it needs to however I do have a few observations that are blindingly glaring to me and perhaps been overlooked... Mitch Halmu was said to been seen saying:[snip]Point blank open-relays are not a good idea, they may have when the technology was not there to do otherwise but come on, with SMTP AUTH and TLS capabilities in most "reputable" mail servers there is absolutely no excuse for it. If you remove the open relays you remove a good bit of the fscking spam that pollutes the net and annoys the hell out of most people. And SMTP AUTH and TLS would not prevent your roaming customers from sending and receiving and would actually HELP you verify it is them. <snipped what I felt didn't need further encouragement> Respectfully, Jeremy T. BouseAs I answered in a private post to a similar observation, you don't have to take my word for it. Perhaps you believe what Chip Rosenthal, the daddy of MAPS TSI, states on his own site about POP-before-SMTP Authorization: "Our users hated it - particularly those using MS Outlook".
Did I say POP-before-SMTP? I don't think I did... SMTP AUTH and TLS are two completely setups than POP-before-SMTP and both are supported by any decent MUA. I agree POP-before-SMTP was not a good plan but it worked before the SMTP AUTH mechanism came of age. Now there is no logical reason not to use it. Or let me guess you don't authenicate your NNTP server either like most reputable USENET server admins are doing. Jeremy T. Bouse -- ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------, |Jeremy T. Bouse, CCNA - UnderGrid Network Services, LLC - www.UnderGrid.net | | Public PGP/GPG fingerprint and location in headers of message | | If received unsigned (without requesting as such) DO NOT trust it! | | jbouse () Debian org - NIC Whois: JB5713 - Jeremy.Bouse () UnderGrid net | `-----------------------------------------------------------------------------'
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