RE: Cogent Communications Info

[Chris White <cwhite () happyhappy net>]

Considering that Cogent is selling transit to ISP's for $20 less than
Williams "firesale" pricing I would hope they have found a better deal:)


On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Daniel Golding wrote:

> The wierd thing here is that Williams doesn't have an overabundance of
> peering either. They had been SBC's primary IP transit provider for their
> DSL product, but rumor has it that SBC has selected other providers to
> replace them. Perhaps Williams has massive transit contracts of their own,
> and they are trying to cut their losses? Reselling transit for $50/meg is
> better than not reselling it at all.
>
> I doubt Cogent's long term plans are dependent on Williams' firesale transit
> pricing.
>
> - Daniel Golding
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> > Vincent J. Bono
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:03 PM
> > To: David U.
> > Cc: Nanog List
> > Subject: Re: Cogent Communications Info
> >
> >
> >
> > Just to test them out we ordered their "private line" service (rather than
> > the transit product) where it is $10/meg point to point, i.e.
> > 100Mbps cross
> > country is $1,000 per end per month.  Its a tunneled IP product
> > with an ATM
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > They are already 90 days overdue and show no signs of delivery
> > anytime soon.
> >
> > They are heavily involved with Williams for the ATM backbone and
> > I know that
> > Williams is selling IP transit to big telecom accounts for as little as
> > $50/meg.  Since they don't seem to have a lot of peering possibly they are
> > filling in the gaps with Williams transit and coming up with a skewed cost
> > model?
> >
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David U." <davidu () everydns net>
> > To: "Nanog List" <nanog () merit edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:40 PM
> > Subject: Cogent Communications Info
> >
> >
> > > I have been reading about Cogent Communications recently and
> > was wondering
> > how
> > > they can possibly offer 100mbps for $3000 ($1000 if you are an end-user,
> > not a
> > > service provider).  It just seems too good to be true and we
> > know how that
> > > goes...
> > >
> > > Does anyone on NANOG have experience with them?
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > For those who don't know:  Cogent offers 100 mbps at $3000 to service
> > provider
> > > or 1000gbps for $20,000.  http://www.cogentco.com has some info but not
> > much.
> > > thanks,
> > > -davidu