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Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage)
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:15:47 +0800
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001, Clayton Fiske wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:46:26PM -0500, Vijay Gill wrote:On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Bill Fumerola wrote:allow me to channel a few unnamed large national backbones: "Well if thats the case, then they should just turn off their DNS server, because that's obviously the cause of the attack."Bill, don't make me smack you. The DDoS problem is endemic to the current state of hardware and software that comrpises the internet. There are _no_ good answers to DDoS, especially if the coders get smarter and start doing things like:I think this was his point, in reference to several fairly recent threads about DDoS on IRC networks. The "get rid of IRC and you get rid of the attacks" opinion has surfaced a number of times here.
<TONGUE LOCATION="CHEEK"> .. you know guys, this might be a reason to run IRC servers. Give the script kiddies new things to attack, and they won't get bored and start DDoSing more e-commerce sites, "core" routers, etc. </TONGUE> There are good answers to DDoS even in todays internet; there is just too much inertia to actually get people to implement it. Adrian -- Adrian Chadd "Sex Change: a simple job of outside <adrian () creative net au> to inside plumbing." - Some random movie
Current thread:
- What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) SMcGrath (Feb 24)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Tony Rall (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Hank Nussbacher (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Bill Fumerola (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Vijay Gill (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Clayton Fiske (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Adrian Chadd (Feb 24)
- Re: What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage) Bill Fumerola (Feb 24)