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Re: DNS requests from 209.67.50.203


From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol () akyol org>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:38:11 -0800


I am still curious as to why *this* attack would even exist (seeing that it
uses a spoofed source IP address) if people were filtering traffic that were
originationg from their networks properly.

I thought we discussed this already last month on the list.

Bora

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Paxson" <vern () ee lbl gov>
To: "Jared Mauch" <jared () puck Nether net>
Cc: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () research att com>;
<jtk () aharp is-net depaul edu>; <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: DNS requests from 209.67.50.203



A good way to reduce this is to turn off recursion for
people not on your network for your dns server.  This is fairly easy
to do with bind8/bind9.

The attack isn't via recursive lookups (though recursion could help
augment
the attack).  The reflection is in terms of the DNS reply to the purported
requestor (really the victim).  At lbl.gov, none of the requests result in
further lookups from our nameserver.  But the victim still receives the
reply
stream, which from a combined large number of name servers is very large.

See my draft paper

ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/.vp-reflectors.txt

for a discussion of reflector attacks.

Vern




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