Re: Network for Sale

[John Fraizer <nanog () Overkill EnterZone Net>]

yOn Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jay wrote:

> Speaking of tools, we're releasing an open source utility called "OpRoute"
> at the end of this month. The tool works something like traceroute, but it
> also reports # of NAPs, AS hops, layer 3 hops, latency, packet loss,
> etc... It also gives you the option to show a side-by-side compariason of
> those statistics (from "a" to "z") on your network versus another outside
> network.

And just how do you know when someone went through a NAP?

> Anyway, this is coming out (with source code) at the end of the month --
> if interested, I'll post a notice to this list when its released.

Very interested.  I _REALLY_ get off on screwing with marketing hype
motivated people.

> "Thrashing" routes is a concern. We have to throttle-back our
> optimizations and have put in some algorithms for dealing with this. The
> actual process of changing the route we do with proprietary protocols
> in-house.

Read: 

Modify route-map xxx

"clear ip bgp x.x.x.x soft in"


> As for multihomed customers, that gets me into a whole new area... I don't
> know if this list would care to hear the entire bit, so I'll just hit the
> basics. If anyone wants more information, just email me off-list. Anyway,
> our current product (bandwidth) is being augmented by a new product
> (called IRIS) that goes into beta in April. IRIS is basically a
> client-side version of the routing intelligence technologies which
> interoperates with our core. IRIS is specifically for diverse networks
> (multihomed or otherwise) -- no matter if they're using the Opnix
> bandwidth product or not.

Let me guess.  IRIS doesn't run on the 75xx or 120xx?


Rules of thumb in internet marketing to geeks:

(1) Make it work with Cisco
(2) Make it ACT like Cisco

> > multihomed to multiple Opnix PNAPS^H^H^H^(oops, wrong marketing hype
> > engine enabled)POPS?
>
>
> Heh, you can never keep the marketing department under control. :)
>
> ~Jay


It's real easy when you have ENGINEER types holding the purse.  You don't
let the Marketing Types release BULLSHIT to the word.  If/When they do,
you fire their dumb %$$es.  It's that simple.  They have released
something that is going to be an EMBARRASSMENT to the company in front of
anyone who is technically compitent.  They have alienated 90% of your
customer base.  They are FIRED.  



---
John "Never fired a Marketing Type I didn't already hate" Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc