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Re: MPLS VPNs or not?
From: "Wayne E. Bouchard" <web () typo org>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:10:40 -0700
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:00:38PM -0700, Vadim Antonov wrote:
My position was always consistent - if you can do something (like VPN) at the edge boxes w/o inroducing complexity into core transport, this is the way to do that. "Intelligent networks" is a _bad_ idea.
Not entirely.. Keeping the features and misc. cruft on the edges of the network is a good thing. However, as the edge becomes more intelligent, the core has to adapt to service it. This often cannot be done without adding intelligence into the core. This does not mean that the core should be a participant of the newest and greatest feature but should know about the established features in order to optomize overall function. (eg, multicast.. the core knows about it, but makes no decisions other than routing and replicating packets... It does what it is told. All the rest is handled at the edge and at the RP.)
Also note that in the backbone world, no operator is protected from other's stupid decisions. That's why promoting good practices is a necessity, not just a religious argument. Otherwise wily Randy would heartily advise everyone else to switch to X.25 running on top of ATM :) --vadim
These good practices, of course, have to start at the vendors. This is an area that has been lacking in recent years. (silly defaults, code that gets pushed into production before its ready because of marketing schedules, etc.) -Wayne
Current thread:
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not?, (continued)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Randy Bush (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Randy Bush (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Nipper, Arnold (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Randy Bush (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Nipper, Arnold (Aug 07)
- zebra/solaris8/sparc Nipper, Arnold (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Dave Israel (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? alex (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Wayne E. Bouchard (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Yakov Rekhter (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Vadim Antonov (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Robert Raszuk (Aug 08)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Dave Israel (Aug 07)
- Re: MPLS VPNs or not? Christian Kuhtz (Aug 07)