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Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom
From: Nathan Lane <nathan () terminus com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:37:40 -0500
Masataka Ohta wrote:
IETF, now, means Intelligent Extension of Telephone Forum.
Not to offend anyone, but one could say "Imbeciles Extending the Telephone Forum" could apply to some limited WGs. :)
Recent introduction, by IETF, of intelligent intermediate entities such as edge routers, policy decision points and call agents is the direct violation of the end to end principle which causes a lot of scalablity problems.
These things should be especially troubling to all of us. No vendor I have spoken to will make a clear statement of direction on where they believe the intelligence should be, resulting in a tremendous FUD factor for those purchasing technology without a solid technology background. They just end up purchasing it all or none of it. When it becomes more important for "engineers" to have memorized vendor product lines rather than technologies to solve business problems, we have issues like these. It would appear that some have left the realm of engineering and entered the art gallery. -Nathan Lane
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- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom, (continued)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom smd (Sep 04)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Masataka Ohta (Sep 04)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Nathan Lane (Sep 04)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Masataka Ohta (Sep 04)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Sean Donelan (Sep 05)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Josh Richards (Sep 05)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Craig Partridge (Sep 05)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Randy Bush (Sep 05)
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- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Randy Bush (Sep 05)
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- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Randy Bush (Sep 06)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Nathan Lane (Sep 06)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Michael Shields (Sep 07)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom smd (Sep 04)
- Re: bring sense to the ietf - volunteer for nomcom Jon Saperia (Sep 05)