Re: I think I jinxed Sprint

[Chris Woodfield <rekoil () semihuman com>]

...and in other news, speaking of Sprint, it appears that AS5511, a 
Sprintlink customer, became a transit provider for the netblock belonging to 
my ISP, CapuNet (an AboveNet customer), and probably many other AboveNet 
blocks, for about 15 minutes this morning...

core1.wdc>sh ip bgp 64.50.178.19
BGP routing table entry for 64.50.160.0/19, version 9657504
Paths: (2 available, best #1, advertised over IBGP)
  1239 5511 6461 7380
    144.228.242.51 from 144.228.242.51
      Origin IGP, metric 55, localpref 50000, valid, external, best
      Community: 6993:1239 65000:10913
  1239 5511 6461 7380, (received-only)
    144.228.242.51 from 144.228.242.51
      Origin IGP, metric 55, localpref 100, valid, external

[cwoodfield@cwoodfield src]$ traceroute 64.50.178.19
traceroute to cd-178-19.ra30.dc.capu.net (64.50.178.19): 1-30 hops, 38 
byte packets
 1  internap-wtcb-gw.e0.wdc.pnap.net (216.52.126.188)  1.05 ms  0.932 ms  
2.76 ms
 2  border2.s3-0.wtc-2.wdc.pnap.net (216.52.127.197)  5.34 ms  3.79 ms  
5.59 ms
 3  core1.fe0-0-fenet1.wdc.pnap.net (216.52.127.1)  5.33 ms  5.52 ms  9.60 
ms
 4  sl-gw2-rly-6-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.184.89)  5.14 ms  6.67 ms  
5.66 ms
 5  sl-bb21-rly-3-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.45)  8.17 ms  6.74 ms  5.59 
ms
 6  sl-bb20-pen-10-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.241)  8.16 ms  9.58 ms  
8.43 ms
 7  sl-bb20-stk-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.46)  67.9 ms  67.3 ms  
70.9 ms
 8  sl-gw28-stk-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.4.110)  67.8 ms  67.4 ms  68.1 
ms
 9  *  *  *
10  *  *  *
11  P6-0.STKBB2.Stockton.opentransit.net (193.251.129.58)  *  *  1242 ms 
(ttl=247!)
12  *  *  *
13  *  *  *
14  *  *  *
15  *  *  *
16

-Chris Woodfield


On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 02:44:00AM -0800, Mathew Butler wrote:
> I thought that routers were supposed to send ICMP Source-Quench messages
> when they got congested?
>
> Or is this something that the proponents of QoS didn't decide on?
>
> -Mat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer () mhsc com]
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 8:58 AM
> To: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog () merit edu
> Subject: RE: I think I jinxed Sprint
>
> The internet is a lot less forgiving wrt outages then the telco. The telco
> can have a circut outage, re-route to another circuit, and the customer
> never sees an availability gap. Also, a total outage, during reduced traffic
> times, and no customer ever misses a dial-tone because they aren't trying to
> get one, is not an outage in telco terms. The internet, on the other hand,
> may have similar issues, unless we start talking streaming video, streaming
> audio, and voice over IP. In those cases, packet losses can make a serious
> mess of things. Also, congestion is treated differently between the two
> systems. Telcos will actually return a fast-busy when a switch becomes
> congested. The internet simply starts dropping packets. You can actually
> hear the latter when using www.dialpad.com or MS-Netmeeting (both of which,
> I use extensively).

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Christopher A. Woodfield                rekoil () semihuman com

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