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Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming?
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () mibh net>
Date: 12 Mar 2000 22:23:54 -0800
They sit on /28's and smaller in some cases. I'm certainly not going to be successful in acquiring ASN's for these people to do proper load balancing between multiple ISP's and most major ISP's see little benefit in modifying route tables to include our small netblock.
Right on man!
Its these cases I'm concerned with. In my mind, irrespective of the comments on the functionality of DNS for this purpose, I see little other choice.
DNS is not the droid you're looking for. Using DNS response times to predict likely TCP performance is silly for at least as many reasons as using BGP aspath lengths to predict likely TCP performance is silly.
That being said, if anyone has better ideas on how to provide for high availability to millions of web sites worldwide, please let me know.
TCP performance is affected by congestion symmetry, since TCP uses the spacing of ACK packets to control the spacing of data packets. While there's no way to guarantee congestion symmetry, one of the leading indicators of whether you will have congestion symmetry is "whether you have path symmetry." Furthermore, the leading indicator of whether you have path symmetry is "whether the outbound flow's first hop is the same as the incoming flow's last hop." Thus http://www.vix.com/pub/vixie/ifdefault/. Try it. If you don't know how to apply patches to your kernel, then have a consultant do it. I wrote this for a pornography distributor whose pageviews-per-second went up by a factor of 1.7 peak and 1.25 average just as a result of using "interface defaults" rather than speaking BGP and trying to run defaultless.
Current thread:
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming?, (continued)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Alex Pilosov (Mar 01)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul Vixie (Mar 01)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Ehud Gavron (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Chris Brenton (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Dana Hudes (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Daniel Senie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Travis Pugh (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul Vixie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul Vixie (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Marc Slemko (Mar 12)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Paul A Vixie (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? adrian (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Peter A. van Oene (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Gary E. Miller (Mar 13)
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- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Randy Bush (Mar 14)
- Re: Alternative to BGP-4 for multihoming? Marc Slemko (Mar 14)