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Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs)
From: Chris Williams <chris.williams () third-rail net>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 16:07:08 -0400
Doesn't this have more to do with the philosophy of the company providing service than the technology being deployed (DSL)? Maybe the problem is that DSL tends to involve LEC people who are infected with the obsolete lazy-monopoly attitude of the incumbents. In any case, are there unique operational challenges posed by DSL that are causing some of these problems? Is there anything we can do as a community to address them (or encourage the people who need to address them, to do so)? Maybe this discussion could evolve into something a little more useful than "my DSL provider sucks"..."me too", since there seems to be a lot of interest (or at least a lot of unhappy voices).. Joseph Birthisel wrote:
DSL NOCs to my experience are badly run and resolution time is not good (to put it nicely). They do not keep good documentation (or their people don't choose to use it) on what circuits affect which customers, which ISPs their outages affect, or how to match a CID with a dslam. Most notable in this area is Northpoint's NCC. My hope is that either (a) over time they will get more standardized in their outage notification and communication with the ISPs they partner with (b) the technology becomes outdated soon and customer connectivity does not rely on their technical support.
Current thread:
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) ww (May 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Bora Akyol (Jun 05)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Joseph Birthisel (Jun 05)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Chris Williams (Jun 05)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Bora Akyol (Jun 05)
- RE: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Christian Kuhtz (Jun 05)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Chris Woodfield (Jun 06)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Chris Williams (Jun 05)
- Re: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Julian Eccli (Jun 06)
- Re[2]: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) W.D.McKinney (Jun 06)
- RE: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) rdobbins (Jun 06)
- RE: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Vadim Antonov (Jun 07)
- RE: DSL (was shopping for NOCs) Barry Shein (Jun 07)