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Re: Yahoo offline because of attack (was: Yahoo network outage)


From: Jim Williams <jaw12 () ntrnet net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:02:08 -0500 (EST)


Anyone find it interesting that all the big name sites are getting hit
except AOL?  Makes you wonder....

Jim Williams                  Ntrnet Systems, Inc.
President/CEO                 Research Triangle Park, NC
jaw12 () ntrnet net              (919)484-0504 fax(919)484-0782


On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Christopher B. Zydel wrote:


On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 03:51:45PM -0500, Travis Pugh wrote:
Host-by-host prevention, during an attack, should be very easy
... assuming a minimal amount of cooperation between upstream provider and
compromised network, if link utilization is tracked and the spike is
noticible.  Perhaps we should be notifying operations staff to be on the
lookout for suddenly saturated circuits, and to be prepared to help out
owners of compromised hosts with filter configuration?

This sort of alarming is fairly trivial.  Just about any network management
system can be configured to poll interface counters on a regular basis and
alarm when some threshold is reached.  The difficult question to answer is
"How long should the link be saturated before sending an alarm".  With high 
speed links this is a lot easier.  It's relatively easy to saturate a T1
with a file transfer, however the same would not be true for an OC-3c.  
This type of alarming should be based upon deviation from the established
mean as well.  (For example, if a circuit sees around 50mbit/sec worth of 
usage on a regular basis, and then spikes to 130mbit/sec and stays there, 
something is clearly wrong)

/cbz






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