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Re: Dialup congestion and winter weather (fwd)


From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm () iglou com>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:34:21 -0500


Also sprach Mark Milhollan
Jeff Mcadams writes:
its been our experience that once all of the channels on all of the
available PRI to the ISP are in use, the telco will generate an all
circuits busy type of response as the PRI are trunk-side, so the
switches typically treat them as inter-switch trunks being filled, not
end lines to the ISP being full.

As always YMMV.  The result is affected to a great extent by
provisioning.  Which is obvious and yet hasn't been mentioned.

I'll buy "YMMV", but I've never run into this situation, and I'm a bit
skeptical.

One way causes a call setup request to be sent even though the switch
knows that there are no available B channels, which permits the
terminal to make it's own decision as to the disposition of the call,
e.g., refuse it with cause code 17 which _should_ cause some switch in
the call path (the originating one usually) to generate a normal busy
tone.

OK...so...if I have 20 PRI spread across 10 pieces of RAS equipment, and
thus, consequently at least 10 D channels (more likely 20 since NFAS is
a pain to manage IMO), which D channel is the setup request sent to?

My understanding is that the switch will typically find a B channel
that's unused, and send the setup request down the corresponding D
channel.  If no B channels are unused, then the switch would have no way
of knowing which D channel to pick to send the setup request.

I certainly won't say that there aren't provisioning setups that would
do this correctly, but it would be beyond my knowledge as to how that
would be set up, that's for sure.

Now, if you're using SS7, or SIP or something like that...all bets are
off, I've never worked with them, so have no knowledge of how they work.
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Jeff McAdams                            Email: jeffm () iglou com
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