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a privacy violation at the DC Renaissance Hotel - to all NANOG 20 conference participants


From: Kai Schlichting <kai () pac-rim net>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:17:14 -0500


Hmm, Merit's mailer gives me some headaches. Maybe it's because the mail
already had a "Delivered-To: header when sent (how to insert that into
incoming-only mail in Sendmail has remained a mystery to me). I sent
it with the wrong return address, too, so this might have been the
true reason.

Please be not be distracted from the content of the message itself.

[...]
                        The Postfix program

<nanog () merit edu>: mail forwarding loop for nanog () merit edu
[...]

From: Kai Schlichting <kai () conti nu>
Subject: a privacy violation at the DC Renaissance Hotel - to all NANOG
  20 conference participants
Cc: postmaster () stsn com, wwest () SUITECORP COM, notphast () MSN COM,
        domain.administrator () MARRIOTT COM, postmaster () MARRIOTT COM,
        postmaster () renaissancehotels com


This is a message to all NANOG 20 participants staying at the
Renaissance Washington DC conference hotel, October 22-24th
(and probably to countless other guests over time that are
not affiliated with NANOG).

If you have surfed accessed-restricted websites belonging to your
employers while using the hotel's in-room Internet service (provided by
SuiteCorp, stsn.com), you have good reason to be concerned now,
as your privacy has been violated.

STSN apparently uses a transparent proxy (which I have no problem with)
that continually keeps a copy of what is accessed for a very long
time (which I have a BIG problem with) - but it doesn't stop there:
it's doing conditional re-GET's on those objects in the cache,
keeping it up-to-date (and I will not allege that the STSN admins
are "surfing the logs" so to speak, there is not evidence for that).

This is a gross privacy violation and a damn good reason not to
use secured, private, privacy-sensitive non-SSL websites when
using any hotel in-room Internet service like STSN. It's also a
damn good reason to sue if you feel like it (I don't, at least
not right now).

The last 5 accesses in the log below are such cache-refresh accesses,
those leading up to it are from my accesses in the room and from
the conference network gratiously provided by AOL.


p3.stsn.com - - [22/Oct/2000:20:16:22 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 
5.5; Windows 98)"
p3.stsn.com - - [22/Oct/2000:23:03:30 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 200 5899 "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.stsn.com - - [22/Oct/2000:23:05:31 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.stsn.com - - [23/Oct/2000:08:26:39 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
nanog-18-142.atdn.net - - [23/Oct/2000:09:02:13 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] 
(Win98; U)"
nanog-19-66.atdn.net - - [23/Oct/2000:11:09:07 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 200 5899 "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] 
(Win98; U)"
p73.stsn.com - - [23/Oct/2000:16:58:52 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)"
p73.stsn.com - - [23/Oct/2000:17:02:34 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)"
p73.stsn.com - - [23/Oct/2000:17:59:04 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)"
12.23.124.37 - - [23/Oct/2000:21:33:46 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)"
p244.stsn.com - - [24/Oct/2000:08:57:28 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; 
U)"
nanog-18-140.atdn.net - - [24/Oct/2000:09:26:26 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/4.75 [en] 
(Win98; U)"
p3.stsn.com - - [28/Oct/2000:10:07:51 -0400] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.stsn.com - - [03/Nov/2000:04:04:11 -0500] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.stsn.com - - [10/Nov/2000:13:31:57 -0500] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.stsn.com - - [19/Nov/2000:21:40:56 -0500] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;)"
p3.usslc14.stsn.com - - [29/Nov/2000:10:27:01 -0500] "GET /~kai/home646.html HTTP/1.0" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/3.01 
(compatible;)"

Thanks,
bye,Kai

ps: yes, that page is gone now.
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