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RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS?
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () kotovnik com>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:29:10 -0700
Steve Riley (MCS) <steriley () microsoft com> wrote:
Nice to see that I'm not the only one believing in the foolishness of QoS hype.
Er... me, agreeing with someone from Microsoft? Yeech! (just kidding :)
Allow me to point you to an interesting paper called "Rise of the Stupid Network."
Unfortunately that paper oversimplifies the whole congestion control issue by completely ignoring the fact that data traffic has a heavy-tailed distribution. Which pretty much means that no matter how much capacity is there, as long as there's oversubscription there will be at least transient traffic jams. Which means that the issue of what to do with different types of traffic when there's a congestion cannot be just pooh-poohed. The big problem with G.711 and its progeny is the lack of effective cooperative congestion control which would guarantee network stability (like TCP does). Fortunately, the bulk of network traffic is "canned" content, which can (and should) be transmitted with TCP. --vadim
Current thread:
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS?, (continued)
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Prabhu Kavi (May 17)
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? John Leong (May 17)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Hank Nussbacher (May 17)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 19)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Hank Nussbacher (May 19)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 19)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 18)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 18)
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Nick Bastin (May 18)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Gary E. Miller (May 18)
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Pete Kruckenberg (May 18)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Hank Nussbacher (May 18)
- Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 18)
- RE: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? Alex P. Rudnev (May 18)