Re: BGP Confederation config problem...

[Blake Willis <blakew () cais net>]

Andy,

        I would say that you should switch to two confeds, one on either
side of the ocean.  That should take care of the problem.  BTW, did Minyah
ever get her NAT problem straightened out?

        -Blake

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Blake Willis                                            703-448-4470x483
Network Engineer, New Customers                         blakew () cais net
CAIS Internet, a CGX Communications Company
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On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Andy McConnell wrote:

> At each member AS, either IGRP or OSPF.  They do not interact.  By
> design... two of the AS's are across the Pacific from the other two :-)
>
> -Andy
>
> --
> Andy McConnell       $B%"%s%G%#(B $B%^%C%3%M%k(B
> Network Architect, NTT Multimedia Communications Laboratories
>
> Slogan of 105.9, the classic rock radio station in Chicago: "Of
> all the radio stations in Chicago ... we're one of them."
>
> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Blake Willis wrote:
>
> blakew> Andy,
> blakew> 
> blakew>       What IGP are you running on this network?
> blakew> 
> blakew>       -Blake Willis
> blakew>       CAIS Engineering
> blakew> 
> blakew> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> blakew> Blake Willis                                                  703-448-4470x483
> blakew> Network Engineer, New Customers                               blakew () cais net
> blakew> CAIS Internet, a CGX Communications Company
> blakew> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> blakew> 
> blakew> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Andy McConnell wrote:
> blakew> 
> blakew> > I have a problem I cannot solve.  If anyone is running confederations like
> blakew> > mine, I would appreciate some help :-)
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > We have a 4-memberAS confederation, each with two IBGP peers.  The
> blakew> > arrangement looks sort of like an octagon.  the "r" is AS3 is an internal 
> blakew> > hop, not a BGP peer.  
> blakew> > 
> blakew> >    _______     ______
> blakew> >   |      R-----R---r |
> blakew> >   |     / |   |    | |
> blakew> >   |AS2 R  |   |AS3 R |
> blakew> >    ----|--     ----|-
> blakew> >        |           |
> blakew> >    ____|__     ____|_
> blakew> >   |AS4 R  |   |AS1 R |
> blakew> >   |     \ |   |   /  |
> blakew> >   |      R-------R   |
> blakew> >    -------     ------
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > The problem is this:  How do you get BGP to choose the shortest "AS PATH",
> blakew> > since internal AS paths are ignored in selecting BGP routes?  Right now,
> blakew> > to top router in AS4 will always choose a route through (2 3 1) instead of
> blakew> > (1), because it prefers "external" routes (even external confederation
> blakew> > routes) over internal routes.
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > So, when given a choice, the router on the distant side of the AS will
> blakew> > ALWAYS prefer the three-AS-hop path, because it is external.  Is there a
> blakew> > way around this?!?
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > Avi Freedman suggested using a +1 metric when leaving each member-AS. 
> blakew> > (Thanks Avi!) But it doesn't seem to help - perhaps I didn't do it right. 
> blakew> > In fact, it doesn't look like the metrics are adjusted more than 1.  for
> blakew> > example, from AS2, the lower router sees every route outside of AS2 as
> blakew> > having only metric 1!  The top router in AS3 does not add 1 to the metrics
> blakew> > it readvertises to AS2.
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > I've been stewing over this problem for some time... I believe there is
> blakew> > some clue that I've missed.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > -Andy
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > --
> blakew> > Andy McConnell       $B%"%s%G%#(B $B%^%C%3%M%k(B
> blakew> > Network Architect, NTT Multimedia Communications Laboratories
> blakew> > 
> blakew> > Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
> blakew> > 
> blakew>