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Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP
From: Dave Siegel <dave () rtd net>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:15:13 -0700 (MST)
Marc, I'd have to agree, ICMP is more for flow control than congestion control. A source quench is to slow a fast machine from overrunning a slow machine, not preventing all flows from going through one link.
One (weak) metaphor is that traffic lights at an intersection are for flow control, while the traffic lights to get onto the freeway (common here in California) are for congestion control...
Extremely weak metaphore, since a source quench indicates there weren't enough buffers available to send your packets. Now, if the freeway was full, and cars started dropping out of the space/time continuum, that'd be more like a source quench. ;-) The freeway would call your wife at home and say "sorry, but your husband didn't make it to work because the freeways were too full." If wife runs correct a correct TCP implementation, she would know to initiate "slow start" and would send out her husbands at a slower rate until she gets a feel for how bad the traffic is.
One then wonders how well Win95 implements source quench, if at all.
Which side of the implementation do you mean? as a client, or as a gateway? I suppose it doesn't really matter. Since source quenches are not supposed to be used on routers anymore, the expectation of receiving a source quench on a large network (like the Internet) is a bad one, so the TCP implementations have to implement congestion controls through other means anyhow. TCP/IP Illus. Vol. I by W. Richard Stevens has a pretty good explanation of what source quenches are. Dave -- Dave Siegel dave () rtd net Network Engineer dave () pager rtd com (alpha pager) (520)579-0450 (home office) http://www.rtd.com/~dsiegel/
Current thread:
- backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Marko B. (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dean Anderson (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Marc Slemko (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dean Anderson (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Marc Slemko (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Scott Whyte (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dave Siegel (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Alex Bligh (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dave Siegel (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Scott Whyte (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dave Siegel (Feb 04)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Marc Slemko (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dean Anderson (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP John Hawkinson (Feb 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Dave Van Allen (Feb 03)
- Re: backbone routers' priority settings for ICMP & UDP Vern Paxson (Feb 04)