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Re: More Sidgemore on per-bit pricing


From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:22:21 -0500


On December 5, 1998 at 15:05 dts () senie com (Daniel Senie) wrote:
Barry Shein wrote:

One possible positive effect (for the consumer) of "per-bit" pricing
is the opportunity to buy larger pipes but only pay for what you use.

Right now flat-rate pricing mostly assumes you're going to, within
some statistical model, actually use the bandwidth you get, or
certainly that someone buying a DS3 is going to use a lot more
bandwidth, on average, than someone with a DS1.
[Rest of post deleted for brevity]

I wonder if the northeast is more expensive than elsewhere, but from my
recent shopping for T1's for myself and my clients, I find the cost of
the service over a T1 isn't the budget buster. For one location, all T1
circuits (before buying IP service, just the telco charge) is $613 a
month. To another location, the circuits are $900 to $1500 a month.
Adding $500 to $1000 on top of that for full-rate service, vs. adding
$200-$500 on top of that for "burstable" service just doesn't generate
much excitement.

I don't think the model becomes very exciting until you model it for
DS3 and beyond, as you say below that there's not enough money
involved to get excited about.

But even at around $1K/mo for a T1 flat-rate, simple extrapolation
puts a 1gb line at $1 million per mo, even if there's a 50% discount
for that, $500K/mo, the customer base would be somewhat limited. Even
a 155Mb/s ATM calculates to around $100K/mo using straight
extrapolation. Being able to get an atm line in for, say, $10K/mo and
then paying the burstable rate might seem very attractive to some.

Until the base telco circuit prices are lowered dramatically, the
pricing of packet service over them, while not "noise," is certainly
less interesting.

This is certainly true, and no doubt something someone in Sidgemore's
position is considering since Worldcom does local loop or is certainly
capable of affecting local-loop pricing.

Now, if the whole circuit, T1 and IP packet service, were all priced on
the basis of traffic, that'd be interesting. An underutilized T1 would
incur some small base charge, plus traffic/usage increments beyond that.
That'd be quite attractive, though I doubt the phone companies would
think so.

Exactly my point.


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