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Re: Effects of traffic shaping ICMP (&c.)


From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () Relcom EU net>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:46:18 +0300 (MSK)

I am not sure about traffic-shaping because this mechanism looks like an 
evil's device, but it's good place to use CAR alghoritm for this.




On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Mark R. Lindsey wrote:

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:57:08 -0500
From: Mark R. Lindsey <mark () vielle datasys net>
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Effects of traffic shaping ICMP (&c.)

Howdy,

When our network is being smurfed, we can call our ISPs and have them
setup an access list to block ICMP. That fixes the problem, but it
creates another (obvious) problem.

Could traffic shaping, or similar QoS configurations, be used to solve
such issues in a more general way? For example, if my source of packet
flooding is ICMP, then I'd like to be able to dedicate as much as 1/10th
(e.g.) of the bandwidth of each link to ICMP. That's plenty of ICMP, but
it's not so much that an attack using ICMP would be effective.

My question, stated briefly, is this: can you solve generic
homogenous-packet-flood problems with QoS and/or traffic shaping (if the
two can be truly distinguished), in general? If so, are current routers
capable of doing it? What would be the effect of doing so on dialup
links and backbones?

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