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Re: More Sidgemore on per-bit pricing


From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:31:25 -0500

At 06:43 PM 12/9/1998 -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I was just saying how you could lower the cost of the ADSL loop from
around $150 to $30, with both you would need to supply the IP. The idea
would be that you would not just use the port for internet traffice. You
would provide voice services, you would provice VOD (video on demand), and
cable services (using something like I Magic TV).

Oh yeah, I got that, Nathan.  It's just that I get miffed when people
keep going on (don't take this personal) about how cool it is that I
can get my loop down from $300 to $150... when my router port is still
$1800.  Nice, yeah, but not what people mean when they blather about
"cheap bandwidth".  If it's _that_ cheap, it's running under completely
different assumptions than a standard T-1; viz: cable modems.

Um, actually, I think think you can get DSLAM's for about $700 per port or
less going by my recent informal surveys.  

Router ports have been way overpriced for a long time. They were overpriced
when an AGS sold for 30K with a stack of ethernet, serial, and an fddi
port.  Of course, back then the pricing model optimistically expected to
sell only a few thousand. They got even more overpriced later, and now
expect to sell hundreds of thousands.

What I've yet to find out is what sort of latency one gets with a DSL modem
as compared to a DSU...

I'm not sure DSL is somehow inferior technology (as Bob Metcalfe seems to
think from an article several years ago), or if it just represents a
(slight) change and a collapse of the fee structure.

                --Dean


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