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Re: open relays at Earthlink
From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol () nacs net>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:13:02 -0400
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 09:20:24PM -0500, Phil Howard wrote:
Since UUNET does not immediately cut off all accounts that come from a reseller because a spammer does, UUNET is _in_ _effect_ telling resellers "that's OK".
Huh? because a spammer does what? Hm. UUNet may not - probably doesn't - have the technical ability to get into Reseller X's server and disable the customer's account. I am assuming here, and Steve Davies can correct me if needed -- I am assuming that UUNet access servers refer back to the ISP's authentication servers (RADIUS, TACACS or the like) to verify login and password information. I am further assuming that UUNet does not have the necessary administrative access to its resellers networks and computers to disable the account.
If UUNET wanted to be proactive about spam, and truly carry out their policy, and do so without filtering SMTP, then they would refuse to sign up all accounts from spammers.
UUNet doesn't do retail dialup accounts, Phil. When a spammer signs up for dialup access via UUNet, it's through Earthlink or MSN or another UUNet reseller.
Some things _may_ be possible to find this out, such as UUNET demanding the CC numbers used and refusing CC numbers blocked for spamming. But this is only a limited measure as dedicated spammers seem to have an endless supply.
This is something that has to be done by the ISP's, not UUNet. And passing around credit card information can cause a huge amount of legal trouble. The solution is for UUNet to prevent SMTP connections directly from its dialups. -- Steve Sobol, Cartel Member #1489 (tinc) Quote of the year: "If Bill [Gates] were tan, buffed and weighed 240 pounds, I bet people would dig IS." - Michael Cohn, COMPUTERWORLD Magazine, 8/3/98.
Current thread:
- Re: open relays at Earthlink, (continued)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Aaron Goldblatt (Aug 24)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Brandon Ross (Aug 24)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Derek Balling (Aug 25)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink J.D. Falk (Aug 26)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink John Butler (Aug 26)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Christopher Masto (Aug 27)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Steve Davies (Aug 25)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Edward S. Marshall (Aug 25)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Steven J. Sobol (Aug 25)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Phil Howard (Aug 26)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Steven J. Sobol (Aug 25)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Phil Howard (Aug 26)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Bill Becker (Aug 31)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Phil Howard (Aug 31)
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- Re: open relays at Earthlink Adam Todd (Aug 26)
- Re: Fw: open relays at Earthlink Bill Becker (Aug 17)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Phil Howard (Aug 26)
- Re: open relays at Earthlink Phil Howard (Aug 27)