Re: [nanog] Re: SMURF amplifier block list

[Jeremy Porter <jerry () freeside fc net>]

In message <Pine.LNX.3.95.980411203415.26653D-100000 () bisco clark net>, Stephen 
Balbach writes:
> On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Michael Dillon wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Sean M. Doran wrote:
> >
> > > This is a monumental admission: I think Karl is doing the right thing.
> >
> > However there are a couple of minor flaws that could be fixed.
> >
> > One is to sort the list by IP address to make it easier for folks to scan
> > through and see if they recognize any addresses of companies that they
> > have some contact with. Even better would be to include the netblock names
> > from whois.arin.net.
> >
> > And the other is to include the URL of a website that explains how to fix
> > the problem. This makes it a whole lot easier to explain to people. 
> >
> > P.S. maybe there is a 3rd flaw.... Maybe the list should be posted to
> >      alt.2600 as well? >:->
>
> Another problem. Say I (and others) use this list. How do I know when the
> perpetrators fix it? They may contact Karl. Karl may or may not keep the
> blacklist alive on nanog 2 years from now. Bad sites gone good are still
> blocked from my site. Is there a easy way to independently verify if it's
> been fixed?

Uh, ping the broadcast address?  

> Even better if someone kept a central list with accountability. Perhaps
> you could pay for verified updated access-lists..  prevent SMURF attacks,
> emergency DoS attack swat teams for hire, etc.. a 1-2 man consulting
> operation.

I think this is a bad idea and has been run into the ground previously.



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