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Re: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1 () ix netcom com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:44:59 +0000
Jodi, jodi wrote:
Observations : 1. Is this an organization for Domain Names for registering them and maintaining them , and developing global policy ??
Depends on who you ask I suppose. SOme would definatly say it is, others would say it isn't anything but a takover scam of the DNS system. SO, I suppose it depends on how you view the gTLD-MoU.
2. If this Person has breached federal telecommunication regulations ? if so . then must pay for the crimes as set down in the countries law.!!!!
Correct! But only IF Eugene has indeed done that and has been proven to have done so in a court of law.
3. Defense Fund , if people want to help this person , this should not be connected in anyway to this organization or this may be seen around the world as an incorrect organization policy !!!!!!!
I would hope this observation isn't true. Every man has a right to a legal defense that is adaquate. Helpint to provide for that for an individual is a nobal thing regardless of the considerations or circumstances. This is one of the corner stones of Democracy. It is calle "The Right to a fair Trial".
4. I am confused over the role of the CORE know because of this discussion on a issue that doesn't concern the domain registration or GLTD policy development.
Directly it doesn't, I agree. But indirectly it does, or it does by the actions of a few and words of several on both sides of the fence. It is terrible that Eugene's situation is now a part of the record, but it none the less.
Yours Sincerely Brian Burnett President PacificaNet -----Original Message----- From: owner-gtld-discuss () imc org On Behalf Of Bob Allisat Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:33 PM To: Geoff White Cc: Karl Denninger; Marc Hurst; Paul A Vixie; nanog () merit edu; newdom () ar com; iwar () iwar org; gtld-discuss () gtld-mou org Subject: Re: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund I wrote:Eugene talked the talk *AND* walked the walk. None of you other people have. So pay up. Or shut up. Freedom is freedom. And it has often has a high price. Pay it or lose it. There will be many more who may choose to follow Eugene in the months and years to come. You who have been dragging your heels and delayingGeoff White replied:Eugene is not a freedom fighter or a patriot or anything like that.He is a fool, and a stupid fool at that. The only thing that he accomplished by his act was a bit of ego stroking and a lot of grief for the rest of the community.We shall see what happens in the days and months and years ahead. Only time will tell who is right. What Kashpureff did was imperfect. But what everyone else does is sweet phuck all. TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor () wtv net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html
Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng. Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. (Soon to be INEG. INC) Stay tunned! Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office) E-Mail jwkckid1 () ix netcom com Wisdom: "One who knows others is wise, one who knows himself is enlightened." Lao Tzu
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