Re: Who Are The Good Guys?

[dorn () atl eni net (Dorn Hetzel)]

Were I you, I would forward such a threat to some appropriate authorities.

Geoff White writes:
> On Tue, 13 May 1997, David Stoddard wrote:
>
> >     In the war against spam, its getting harder to figure out who
> >     the good guys are.  Last weekend, we had an incident where a server
> >     called pure.fiber.net was relaying thousands of spam messages off
> >     one of our mail servers.  While we have filters in place to block
> >     the obvious spammers (cyberpromo and others), we don't learn about
> >     new ones until they cross the line (or we get them from Paul's
> >     site at http://www.vix.com/spam -- thanks Paul!).
>
> <snip>
>
> Indeed things are getting strange, look at this letter I got in my mailbox
> this morning...
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > From www () www-01 io com Wed May 14 00:27:05 1997
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> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500
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> From: The Dawn Patrol <hipcrime () post1 com>
> To: geoffw () v-site net
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>
> Geoff White,
>
> We have watched with some amusement the antics of your friend
> Robert, but we can long longer sit back passively and just
> watch as he continues to cause others harm and grief.
>
> In addition to his many other transgressions, he is now threatening
> people with hack attacks on their systems and with physical
> harm.  This, and all of his many other crimes must end immediately.
>
> We are in now in the process of insuring that Robert's web presence
> will be revoked in all of the places he has infected with it.  For
> the moment, we have decided to allow him to keep his E-mail accounts
> but we will quickly arrange for those also to be revoked if he
> insists on continuing to cause harm and annoyance to others on the
> net.
>
> More importantly however, we will henceforth be holding you and
> your v-site.net site responsible for and further crimes that he
> commits online against the people he thinks are his enemies.  If
> there are any security-related incidents at any of the sites run
> by any of these people, we will find out about it, and you will
> then be forced to deal with similar unfortunate events at your
> own site.  If necessary, we will also and likewise respond to
> any hacking activities by Robert with additional measures against
> vcinternet.
>
> We are certain that you have a significant investment in hardware
> and software at your site that you would not like to have placed
> in jeopardy, so it is in your interest now to contact your friend
> Robert and have him cease his threats and attacks on people on the
> Internet.  We suggest that you use all means of persuasion at your
> disposal to do this, and that you do it immediately.  No further
> warnings will be sent to you regarding this matter.
>
> The Dawn Patrol
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Now Robert did have a Web account here months ago, he was canned for
> misusing my sendmail daemon with his fameous Java applet that let's
> you spam the net by surfing for <mailto> tags. He is long gone
> but now I have to deal with clueless vigilanties who are threatening
> to hack my systems because of someone long gone, hey is this the french
> revolution or what?
>
> In any event if it get to this I will toast anybody who trys to
> f*ck with my systems.
>
>
>                               geoffw

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