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Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them withcharging under non-disclosure?


From: "Jack Rickard" <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:14:15 -0600

I'm picturing a kind of "UUNET Disconnects from Internet" type of headline.
 This NDA thing has got me shut down.  John Sidgemore won't talk to me. 
Ok, let's go public.  What do you guys know?  As usual in Boardwatch, we'll
all pretend I had a dream last night and made it all up.  I don't know what
I'm talking about, yata yata yata.... e-mail privately.  I hallucinated it
as always...

Jack Rickard


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From: Matthew E. Pearson <mpearson () games-online com>
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them
withcharging under non-disclosure?
Date: Friday, May 02, 1997 9:54 PM

At 10:46 PM 5/1/97 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote:
I have just had a phone call from a particpant in the news conference of
the well. What UUNET is doing to many of its peers, including the Well,
is
now clear. According to my caller, Dave Hughes, it has served notice to
many if not most of its peers that, in late May and early June, it will
either terminate their peering session or that the peers will have to
start paying for the privilege. How much will be charged and under what
conditions is unknown.  Why? Because the unfortunate peers either have
to
**sign non disclosure agreements before** they even sit down with UUNET
or
simply be cut off.

Now how pathetic is this? UUNET one of the original pioneers of the
Commercial Internet, one of the Flagships of open systems, standards, and
connectivity now wants to extort money from other networks for peering?
As
if they don't make enough money. Gee wouldn't it really suck for all of
UUNet's customers and MSN etc if a company like ConXion no longer had
UUNET
peering? Gee they couldn't download any Microsoft products anymore! True,
UUNET is big, true they have many good sites and on-line resources for
customers. But, they are not so good that they deserve some mega-high
price
for the honor of accessing their customers. After all, why do you need a
confidentiality agreement if your prices are reasonable? Put a gag-order
on
people from complaining about pricing...

This is also practically extortion. "Yes, we are peers, we have already
decided that our customers and yours would benefit, but YOU and YOUR
customers should pay to access ours...." Maybe everyone should pull out
of
peering with UUNET and tell them they need to pay US to peer. Just my
$0.02

I am all for a commercial Internet, but this takes it WAY to far for my
tastes. At least true telecom carriers are regulated in what they can
charge for interconnects by the FCC or another governmental body in their
own country. Sheesh..

Send all flames to: dev () null com


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Matthew E. Pearson
Vice President of Development
Games-Online Inc.
http://www.games-online.com
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