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Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze
From: Paul A Vixie <paul () vix com>
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 19:46:41 -0700
Well, heck. Karl sent me the same thing personally since he must have figured my slocal would nuke his messages on the main nanog list. I've removed my slocal for the duration of various other emergencies, so I got the pleasure of seeing this twice.
I take my root zone from the IANA. Not NSI and especially not from stargate 0.Really?
Yes, really.
Explain this trace please. ... 7 netsol.bbnplanet.net (192.221.77.130) 31.580 ms 33.831 ms 29.229 ms 8 * * a.root-servers.net (198.41.0.4) 44.905 ms netsol.bbnplanet.net is Network Solutions, Inc., otherwise known as NSI.
Yes, that's true. I think you interpreted that trace correctly. Exactly why do you need my help?
Nice try.
Um. I don't know a lot of smaller words I could use to explain this but I will try. If IANA tells me to take my root zone from Stargate 0, then I will. What that trace is telling you is that a long while back, IANA asked the InterNIC contractor (currently NSI) as well as the root name server operators to publish its root zone. We all decided that since InterNIC publishes the COM, EDU, MIL, NET, ORG, ARPA, and GOV zones to the other root name servers, we might as well publish the "." zone the same way. Authority to make changes to MIL, GOV, EDU, and "." was not delegated to the InterNIC contractor. Last week the MIL folks let us all know that they will be publishing the zone directly soon, for example. Authority to make changes to COM, NET, ORG, and IN-ADDR.ARPA _was_ delegated to the InterNIC contractor. However, IN-ADDR.ARPA is itself subdelegated to APNIC, RIPE, and soon ARIN -- when the InterNIC contractor stops allocating IP address blocks it will also cease to have authority to make changes in IN-ADDR.ARPA. So you see, the top level domains published by the target of your traceroute are not all owned by the organization who owns that target. When the owners of these domains say "change where you pull it from", the root name server operators do so during their next scheduled maintainance interval. The "." zone is owned by IANA. If the IANA tells us to fetch it from Stargate 9, we will do that -- it makes no difference to us where we fetch it from. We are just server operators, we're just concerned about stuff like connectivity and uptime and coherence. Jim Fleming's so called "Root Server Council" is an insult to our intelligence. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- eDNS - Temporary Freeze Jim Fleming (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Paul A Vixie (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Karl Denninger (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Paul A Vixie (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Karl Denninger (May 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- eDNS - Temporary Freeze Jim Fleming (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Dwight Ernest (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Karl Denninger (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Paul A Vixie (May 03)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Karl Denninger (May 04)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Michael Dillon (May 04)
- Re: NSI vs IANA Stephen Sprunk (May 04)
- Re: NSI vs IANA Paul A Vixie (May 04)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Paul A Vixie (May 04)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Jordan Mendelson (May 04)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Karl Denninger (May 04)
- Re: eDNS - Temporary Freeze Paul A Vixie (May 03)