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Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!


From: "Jeff Young" <young () mci net>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:00:11 -0400

then why not test in the locations where backbones put web servers?
mci.com is not currently located in the facility(ies) where mci
offers web hosting.  i expect other companies could say the same.

Jeff Young
young () mci net


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From: "Jack Rickard" <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>
To: "George Herbert" <gherbert () crl com>, <nanog () merit edu>
Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!! 
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This is gibberish George.  The measurements were taken from different
networks, in 27 different locations.  It is not even potentially the case
that anyone would be measured within their network solely.  It is not
optimized for customers getting to their own web server. 

It is a simulation of the end user world or footprint.  If you have a web
server on one backbone, how will it look to that user population, as
compared to if it were on another backbone.

Jack Rickard


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From: George Herbert <gherbert () crl com>
To: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>
Cc: Ben Black <black () zen cypher net>; nanog () merit edu; gherbert () crl com
Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!! 
Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 3:20 PM


From: "Jack Rickard" <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>
I'm not a marketing droid.  But only a moron would think that overall
performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is
essentially what you are attempting to say.

Many, many things will affect the download of a web page,
when it's an internal server the primary one being where
that server is relative to the customer dialins, and how
the internal network congestion is handled.

This particular test would favor sites whose backbone is highly
optimized for their customers getting to their own web server,
and only their own web server.  Most servers are put where their
access is best balanced, and for nearly all servers, that's closer
to the outside world than internal customers, because the vast
majority of connections are external.

This test completely missed any issues related to inter-ISP
connectivity and performance.  You could score at the top of the
pack with a ISP which was disconnected from the rest of the
internet during the test period, in fact, a key indicator that
the measurement is nearly worthless as an overall gage.

-george william herbert
gherbert () crl com
I speak only for myself, and occationally my cats.



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