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Re: Info on MAE-EAST
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb () clark net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:00:00 -0500
At 8:25 AM -0500 1/16/97, Dorian R. Kim wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Brett L. Hawn wrote:On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Michael Dillon wrote: shot, and someone spank me if I'm way off but... From what I've seen, in any given city (assume a reasonable size of 200,000+) 50% or more of the traffic is local. By providing reasonable rates for private interconnects at a localNope. In a given reasonably sized (.i.e a city or so) geographical area, you'd be lucky to get better than 20% locality of your traffic. There are some exceptions where there are major traffic sources in the area, but those tend to be pretty concentrated. The percentage decreases further when you take into account traffic to/from NSPs' customers in the locality as the NSPs are not likely to private peer with local providers. This is in no way a case against local peering, (every bit less traffic dumped into the core from every locality adds up) but one needs to be aware of what is gained from "exchange in every town" scenario. -dorian
Interesting. I wonder if this will continue to be a long term trend. I can't claim to have recent numbers that suggest otherwise, but, some historical information might at least be interesting. In the early 80s, I did a good deal of X.25 capacity planning. At what was then GTE Telenet, we found that up to 50% of our traffic stayed local in large cities. The larger the city, the more that seemed to stay local...this was especially obvious in New York, where a great deal of financial data flowed. Now, these old statistics reflect mainframe-centric traffic, and more private-to-private than arbitrary public access. The latter is much more characteristic of Internet traffic. SNA and X.25 tended to emphasize the ability to fine tune access to a limited number of well-known resources, with relatively well-understood traffic patterns. The Internet, however, has emphasized arbitrary and flexible connectivity, possibly to the detriment of performance tuning and reliability. While I recognize that putting mission critical applications into the general Internet (as opposed to VPNs), in many cases, is a clear indication that someone needs prompt psychiatric help, I wonder whether the increasing commercialization of Internet information resources might tend to have greater volumes of traffic that stays within the service area of an exchange point. Web cacheing would seem to encourage traffic to stay local. Howard Berkowitz PSC International - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST, (continued)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Nathan Stratton (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Alec H. Peterson (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Nathan Stratton (Jan 17)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Alec H. Peterson (Jan 17)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Paul A Vixie (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Robert Laughlin (Jan 17)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Michael Dillon (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Brett L. Hawn (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Dorian R. Kim (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Howard C. Berkowitz (Jan 16)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST dave o'leary (Jan 17)
- Re: Info on MAE-EAST Howard C. Berkowitz (Jan 17)