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Re: Internet II is coming...


From: Todd Graham Lewis <lists () reflections mindspring com>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:48:02 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Tersian wrote:

Would this be such a Bad Thing(tm)? Many times I have seen research
professors and students in the research field getting extremely upset
because data that they used to exchange with other schools and countries
is now taking 20 times longer because Joe Blow from L.A. is checking out
all his favorite sports stories 300 times a day and John Dough is
downloading all the porn he can fit on his 5 gig drive from across the
country.

      I wouldn't really see this move as a "Internet Separatist" 
movement, more as a "return to normalcy" in the true spirit of the
Internet. Consider if you were a biochemical research student at
biochem.edu and you wanted to transfer a 30Meg molecular model back and
forth between biochem.edu and chem.edu but in between both of you were
hundreds and thousands of hosts, using Internet resources for commercial and
entertainment purposes.  Wouldn't you be a little upset when your ftp was
finished at .098K/s over a multi-homed DS3? 

This argument is, if you will pardon the phrase, utter and complete 
bullshit.  Before those annoying Joe Schmoe's threw their six-pack-guts 
up to the rail and started paying for their access, universities usually 
had what level of access to the net?  56k?  Maybe T1?  All feeding onto 
what, a T1 backbone?

Commercialization of the network has brought a flood of resources to 
building out the backbones and making access cheaper for everyone, 
including the universities.  You can't argue that congestion was not a 
problem before '94, because it was.  You can't argue that the 
transatlantic links weren't always choking before '94, because they were.

Commercialization of the 'net has made the vBNS, Internet II, etc., 
possible at OC-(whatever).  Commercialization has pushed development of 
router, modem, Unix, IP software, etc., technology far faster than the 
universities ever could have pushed it.  This elitish bullshit makes me 
want to puke.

Pull your head out of your ass; it smells much better out here in the 
real world.

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