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Re: MCI [ATM overhead]
From: Jim Forster <forster () cisco com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:51:33 -0800
If we are going to talk about ATM overhead when doing TCP/IP don't we need to talk about the overhead of partially filled ATM cells? Won't that cost you about 1/3 of your available bandwidth? -Jeff Ogden MeritJeff, would you or anyone give an example or two of when you get PARTIALLY filled ATM cells? I've interviewed dave sincoskie, steve tabaska, and Stephen von rump so far. they all rather like ATM. Don't believe I heard about this problem from them. You aren't talking about the switch not being able to tell whether a cell is mangled before it transmits by any chance are you?????
Gordon, He's talking about the overhead due to carrying variable length IP packets in fixed length ATM cells. Consequently the last cell of an AAL5 frame will contain 0 - 39(?) bytes of padding, which is wasted bandwidth. Assuming random length distributions (which they're not), the average waste is about 20 bytes per packet. My rough estimate, based on an average packet size of 200 bytes (used to be correct, not sure anymore), is that the waste due to cell padding is about 10%. Due to the highly skewed packet size distribution the actual overhead might vary substantially. Note that this 10% is on top of the ~10% overhead due to the 5 byte ATM cell headers (5/53 ~= 10%), and various other overheads (some of which are also present in frame over Sonet schemes). There's beginning to be some expectation that there will be a transmission capacity crunch in the carrier's Sonet nets, and this ~25% ATM cell tax may be looked at carefully as packet over Sonet solutions emerge. -- Jim
Current thread:
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Jeff Ogden (Mar 19)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Gordon Cook (Mar 19)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Gary R Wright (Mar 19)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Jim Forster (Mar 19)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Paul Ferguson (Mar 19)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Wolfgang Henke (Mar 19)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] John Cavanaugh (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Wolfgang Henke (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Paul Ferguson (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Mark A. Luker (CISE/NCRI) (Mar 22)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Vadim Antonov (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Shikhar Bajaj (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Tim Salo (Mar 20)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Jon Zeeff (Mar 21)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: MCI [ATM overhead] Gordon Cook (Mar 19)