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Re: ATM Wide-Area Networks


From: salo () msc edu (Tim Salo)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 16:03:32 -0500 (CDT)

From: Sean Doran <smd () icp net>
To: pferguso () cisco com, salo () msc edu
Subject: Re: sell shell accounts?
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Date:  Wed, 24 Jul 1996 01:43:30 +0100

| o    Given that each link is rather expensive, it behooves the
|      NSP to try to avoid needlessly moving a packet back and
|      forth across a DS-3 local loop just because my ATM 
|      provider can't provide me with any more PVCs.
|      (Which was my major point, by the way.)

Interestingly enough, the NSPs I observe moving large amounts
of traffic around are set up in such a way that their routers
are generally colocated with carrier transmission gear, and
so there *is* no local loop to speak of, as an added cost to
an outside supplier.
      [...]

Hopefully, my thinking is clearer than my writing...

What I originally called "local loop B," now relabeled "This Thing Here,"
is probably comprised of:

o       a port on the ATM switch/service

o       a connection between the router and the switch, (usually a
        wide-area link, given that most wide-area ATM services 
        backhaul traffic to a few ATM switches)

o       a port on the router

A short-cut VC would avoid needlessly passing packets back and forth
across "This Thing Here."  That would seem to be a good thing in
most circumstances, inasmuch as some or all of the components of
"This Thing Here" cost something and may potentially become a bottleneck.

-tjs

|    ________           _______________________          ________
|   | Router | loop A  |                       | loop C | Router |
|   |   A    |=========| Wide-Area ATM Service |========|   C    |
|   |________|         |_______________________|        |________|
|                                  |
|                                  | <=== This Thing Here
|                                  |
|                              ________
|                             | Router |
|                             |   B    |
|                             |________|
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