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Re: ATM Wide-Area Networks (was: sell shell accounts?)


From: Dave Siegel <dave () rtd net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:22:23 -0700 (MST)

Acceptable arguments are:
o Switches can handle more throughput

That's difficult to quantify in theory *or* practice.
    [...]

I may misunderstand your assertion, but it doesn't seem all that
difficult to quantify, at least to some coarse level.

We have been using wide-area ATM switches at OC-3c for some time.
It is pretty clear that the switches can handle OC-3c.  The
early switches had relatively small output buffers, so they tended
to loose cells before TCP could throttle back in congested circumstances.
We are now using switches with much larger output buffers, and TCP appears
able to throttle back fairly gracefully.

It's difficult to quantify wrt to how ATM plays a role in end-to-end 
performance on the Internet.  There is very little research to support how
ATM affects the overall performance.  Even Ameritech and PacBell restricted
the majority of their performance evaluation on performance in the switch,
and only extended their scope if they leased an ADSU to a customer.  Even
with the improved buffering, if you fill your pipe into the ATM switch,
your ATM switch still becomes a packet shredder, compared to the more
graceful packet drops seen on a clear channel line.

The performance of the switched technology is integral with the equipment
attached to it.  You cannot evaluate the performance of the system by
analyzing small chunks of it, and coming to conclusions on the whole system.

This is what I'm talking about.  It's easy to qualify that ATM switches
can switch cells much faster than routers can switch packets (with current
commercially available routers), but it's much more difficult to qualify
the scope of how ATM improves performance in the big picture.

Dave

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