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Re: Customer AS
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry () piermont com>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:22:54 -0400
"Justin W. Newton" writes:
1) redundancy in all components and links. 2) No "cowboy"ism.3) These sites aren't turning up /hundreds/ of T-1's and other links on a given week.
Ahem. How does that change the fact that router changes are frequently done "cowboy style"? How does that change the fact that one frequently calls a NOC and gets the comment "sorry, but *THE* router in Philly is down".
4) Points of entry into these networks are very limited, and therefore the network manager has much more control over what comes into and out of his network as far as both data and routing advertisements.
Again, this neither addresses the cowboy issue nor the lack of redundancy.
5) These networks are not nearly large enough at this point in time to seriously push hardware to/beyond its design specifications.
Again, this neither addresses the cowboy issue nor the lack of redundancy. The majority of the time my clients have outages caused by non-redundant hardware failures or cowboyism at providers, not by hardware being pushed too far.
6) Traffic patterns are relativelty predictable, you don't suddenly have triple the traffic over one link that you didn't have yesterday.
Again, this neither addresses the cowboy issue nor the lack of redundancy. I'm sure that all of what you mention are indeed problems -- problems that will lead to missed install dates, slow networks, etc. None of those, however, are the problems that I'm talking about. Perry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Customer AS, (continued)
- Re: Customer AS Curtis Villamizar (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Sean Doran (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Curtis Villamizar (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Per Gregers Bilse (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Alex.Bligh (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Sean Doran (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS David R. Conrad (Aug 17)
- Re: Customer AS Curtis Villamizar (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Sean Donelan (Aug 18)
- Re: Customer AS Paul A Vixie (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Justin W. Newton (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Perry E. Metzger (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Dave Morton (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Dave Morton (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Sean Doran (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Perry E. Metzger (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Vadim Antonov (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Matthew Kaufman (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Sean Donelan (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Matthew Kaufman (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Joseph McDonald (Aug 23)
- Re: Customer AS Jon Zeeff (Aug 23)
- Re: Customer AS Joseph McDonald (Aug 23)