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Re: links on the blink (fwd)
From: "Steven J. Richardson" <sjr () merit edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:18:15 -0500
>From list-admin () merit edu Sat Nov 4 15:13:10 1995 >Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 12:48:36 -0800 (PST) >From: Michael Dillon <michael () memra com> >X-Sender: michael () okjunc junction net >To: Hans-Werner Braun <hwb () upeksa sdsc edu> >cc: Mike <mn () tremere ios com>, nathan () netrail net, nanog () merit edu, > D.Mills () cs ucl ac uk >Subject: Re: links on the blink (fwd) >In-Reply-To: <199511041859.KAA08467 () upeksa sdsc edu> >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.951104123440.12997A-100000 () okjunc junction net> >On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Hans-Werner Braun wrote: > >> I will not go into a point by point rebuttal here, even though I >> generally do not subscribe to your arguments. I am not planning on >> "winning" here, I just want to get the issues on the table and evaluate >> the solution space. Just let me ask you, as a customer who fairly >> frequently experiences 10% packet loss between major Internet locations >> across major service providers (no mom and pop shops in the middle or >> at the end points), how would you suggest I deal with that? > >Uh... Ignore it? >10% packet loss is quite within the normal range of parameters for a >packet switching network such as the Internet. If you want 0% packet loss, >you can lease your own private point-to-point lines. Uh... Michael, when we were running the NSFNET, as Hans-Werner and many readers of this list are well aware, we did _not_ accept 10% packet loss on any link or across the network. These problems stayed with the NSFNET NOC until resolution by the provider, MCI. We only considered -0%- loss to be acceptable. Sorry if others also responded to this, Steve Richardson/Merit >Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 >Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-542-4130 >http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael () memra com
Current thread:
- Re: links on the blink (fwd), (continued)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Avi Freedman (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Paul A Vixie (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Scott Bradner (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Tim Bass (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Stan Barber (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Sean Donelan (Nov 05)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Bilal Chinoy (Nov 07)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Alan Hannan (Nov 08)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Bilal Chinoy (Nov 07)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Tim Salo (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Steven J. Richardson (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Curtis Villamizar (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Jeremy Porter (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Curtis Villamizar (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Vadim Antonov (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Steven J. Richardson (Nov 07)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 07)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Dave Mills (Nov 08)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Curtis Villamizar (Nov 08)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 08)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 07)