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Re: links on the blink (fwd)
From: Michael Dillon <michael () memra com>
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 21:08:46 -0800 (PST)
On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Scott Bradner wrote:
10% packet loss is quite within the normal range of parameters for a packet switching network such as the Internet.Well, I don't think I will need to be reminded not to buy Internet service from your organization.
Why not? We don't run the Internet, we just connect people to it. And our 10Mbps fibre ATM link rarely gets to 25% utilization.
I consider it a problem when the loss exceeds 1% through this long path - as do the people who run the networks that my traffic passes through. The normal loss through this path is less than 1% and, much of the time it is 0.
momentary samples such as yours are meaningless. One moment you can have 0% loss, the next moment 10%. I will agree that sustained high loss levels are not acceptable, but isolated ping measurements do not measure that.
But nothing is broken. There is no inter-ISP level.It is so much easier to just say it is the other guy's problem. Hans-Werner suggests that most phone companies do not take this attitude,
I disagree. If you get busy signals or recorded messages from a telco other than the one who provides your local phone service, the most they will do is to promise you that they will look into it and/or inform the company whose service appears to be the problem. This is all any ISP can do when a customer complains that ISP X is not reachable or that ISP X's site appears to be overloaded. I am talking about ISP's here, not NSP's. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-542-4130 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael () memra com
Current thread:
- Re: links on the blink (fwd), (continued)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Ehud Gavron (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Ross Veach (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Hans-Werner Braun (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Dave Mills (Nov 08)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Scott Bradner (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Andrew Partan (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Andrew Partan (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Andrew Partan (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) William Allen Simpson (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike O'Dell (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Avi Freedman (Nov 04)
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- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Jonathan Heiliger (Nov 05)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Avi Freedman (Nov 05)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike (Nov 05)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Avi Freedman (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Paul A Vixie (Nov 06)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Mike O'Dell (Nov 04)
- Re: links on the blink (fwd) Michael Dillon (Nov 04)