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AV vendors shun MS bounty hunters


From: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:32:10 -0600 (CST)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33866.html

By John Leyden
Posted: 07/11/2003 at 18:14 GMT

Anti-virus vendors are resisting any involvement in Microsoft's scheme
to offer rewards for the arrest and conviction of virus writers.

This week Microsoft placed two $250,000 bounties on the heads of the
virus authors responsible for unleashing the infamous Sobig and
Blaster worms this summer. The application of Wild West-style rewards
on computer crimes is part of a wider Anti-Virus Reward Program,
initially funded with $5 million from Microsoft.

Thus far this is a Microsoft-only initiative, but Redmond is
encouraging "other corporations to consider ways to partner with law
enforcement in deterring this illegal and destructive activity".


Once Upon a Time on the Net

So are anti-virus vendors (never shy of praising law enforcement when
virus writers are convicted) willing to join Sheriff Steve Ballmer's
anti-virus posse?

The answer would appear to be that, rather like the citizens in High
Noon, AV vendors are sitting this one out.

Sophos said it had "no plans" to offer financial rewards for
information leading to the arrest of virus writers. Symantec declined
to comment. Network Associates and MessageLabs both welcomed
Microsoft's initiative but neither expressed any desire to become more
closely involved.

Paul Wood, chief information security analyst at MessageLabs, said he
welcomed Microsoft's initiative as a way of deterring virus writers.

Microsoft was motivated in launching the initiative by the adverse
publicity generated by recent viral outbreaks which has "damaged its
credibility", he said. "Microsoft has to be seen doing something."

Microsoft has a clear financial incentive for making things difficult
for virus writers, but the AV vendors have no such motivation.  
High-profile viruses stimulate AV software sales, particularly to
consumers, despite the increasingly apparent shortcomings of the AV
scanner model.


The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Leaving aside arguments about the possible effectiveness of
Microsoft's program, MessageLabs' Wood agrees that it is hard to
imagine the AV industry getting rid of a problem it was created to
solve.

Doubtless, the vast majority of participants in the AV industry mean
well, and we've never bought into the urban myth that AV companies are
in any way involved in writing viruses, but we question their
incentives to introduce technologies that clamp down on viral
outbreaks.

David Emm, AVERT marketing manager at McAfee Security, said that
technical researchers at AV firms have to go without sleep during
viral outbreaks.

Maybe that's part of the problem. From years of experience we'd note
that we never speak to happier people in the IT industry than AV
marketing folk in the middle of a viral epidemic.

McAfee's Emm makes a decent fist of arguing that AV technology has
come on in leaps and bounds in recent years (better management,
heuristics etc.); even so, the security crisis is getting worse. To
Network Associate's credit, the firm is revisiting the concept of
behaviour blocking- technology. This, along with scanning for viruses
on the Net before they reach users' in-boxes, seems to represent the
best way forward.

"Behaviour analysis has come on leaps and bounds, so that it's no
longer a burden on user. User desktops can be tied down by an admin
more effectively using more sophisticated tools than we had ten years
ago," Emm told El Reg.


Unforgiven

Back to Microsoft’s bounty on virus writers, Emm reckond it id too
early to say if it will be effective.

"It hard to say whether virus writers would have scruples about
dobbing in [informing on] a friend. Lack of scruples it one area
doesn't always translate into another area," he said.

"But I think it will make virus authors more careful about bragging
about their exploits. There's kudos to creating viruses in certain
circles and Microsoft's reward might make people think twice about
sounding off," said Emm.

Against this, Emm noted that the authors of Sobig and Blaster have
kept a much lower profile than traditional virus authors.


A Fistful of Dollars

Emm reckons that the funding of Microsoft’s initiative with $5 million
is evidence of its serious intent. "It's a lot of money for a simple
publicity stunt," he said.

The bounty might "oil the wheels" of the criminal justice system, Emm
said. Although he predicts increased co-operation between participants
in the AV community and the police, Emm detects little willingness in
the AV community as a whole that this will "translate further along to
bounties and rewards".



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