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Re: German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping
From: lsi <lsi () LSI CLARA NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:14:17 -0000
Hi David, I have a number of articles which speculate upon the future of Microsoft, given a) the finding against them in their anti-trust case, and b) the relative merits of closed and open-source software. My first article suggests there's no business case to rely on a single source of anything (including software): http://cyberdelix.net/opinions/microhuh.htm The second article suggests that Microsoft should be liable for damages, due to a) negligent coding that allows worms such as I Love You and Melissa to propagate, and b) deliberately, systematically undermining the market to prevent a better solution from emerging: http://cyberdelix.net/opinions/damages.htm I have a series of articles collected from the net on the NSAKEY issue: http://cyberdelix.net/parvati/nsakey1.htm Also, Bruce Scheiner in his most recent crypto-gram makes note of the upcoming 'hacker insurance' industry. Essentially, it'll cost more to insure a Windows-based network, because it's less secure than other platforms. IMHO, this is sure to knock closed-source software on the head, once and for all. So, I'd say the trend is ... well, sell your M$ shares now. Stuart :) On 19 Mar 2001, at 10:56, Davide Ferrara wrote: Date sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:56:13 -0000 Send reply to: dferrara () comsecconsulting com From: Davide Ferrara <dferrara () COMSECCONSULTING COM> Subject: Re: [ISN] German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping To: ISN () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Seems to me like some intel has either recently been confirmed or come to top people's attention. This is the second article about a government ceasing to use MS due to security/snooping concerns in the last few days. The other country was China. I wonder who is next. I wonder the impact this will have on MS and on security in general. Has anyone else noticed a trend in this, or know more? __________________________ Comsec Consulting Ltd. 30 Cannon Street London EC4M 6YN Tel: +44 (0)20 7653 5790 Fax: +44 (0)20 7653 5701 Mob: +44 (0)777 613 7676-----Original Message----- From: ISN Mailing List [mailto:ISN () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of Micha Schellingerhout Sent: Saturday 17 March 2001 21.40 To: ISN () SECURITYFOCUS COM Subject: [ISN] German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping By: John Lettice Posted: 17/03/2001 at 18:59 GMT http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/17679.html The German foreign office and Bundeswehr are pulling the plugs on Microsoft software, citing security concerns, according to the German news magazine Der Spiegel. Spiegel claims that German security authorities suspect that the US National Security Agency (NSA) has 'back door' access to Microsoft source code, and can therefore easily read the Federal Republic's deepest secrets. The Bundeswehr will no longer use American software (we surmise this includes Larry and Scott as well) on computers used in sensitive areas. The German foreign office has meanwhile put plans for videoconferencing with its overseas embassies on hold, for similar reasons. Under secretary of state Gunter Pleuger is said by Spiegel to have discovered that "for technical reasons" the satellite service that was to be used was routed via Denver, Colorado. According to a colleague of Pleuger's this meant that the German foreign services "might as well hold our conferences directly in Langley." We're not entirely sure whose interesting video conferencing via satellite service has a vital groundstation in Denver, but we note that Pleuger seems to have gleaned this information from a presentation held earlier this month in Berlin by, er, Deutsche Telekom. Which just happens, along with Siemens, to have picked up the gig. The two companies have supplanted Microsoft (and anything else American) and will be producing a secure, home-grown system that the German military can be confident in. ISN is hosted by SecurityFocus.com --- To unsubscribe email LISTSERV () SecurityFocus com with a message body of "SIGNOFF ISN".ISN is hosted by SecurityFocus.com --- To unsubscribe email LISTSERV () SecurityFocus com with a message body of "SIGNOFF ISN".
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- German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping Micha Schellingerhout (Mar 18)
- Re: German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping Patrick Oonk (Mar 19)
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- Re: German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping lsi (Mar 21)