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Re: German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping


From: lsi <lsi () LSI CLARA NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:14:17 -0000

Hi David,

I have a number of articles which speculate upon the future of
Microsoft, given a) the finding against them in their anti-trust case,
and b) the relative merits of closed and open-source software.

My first article suggests there's no business case to rely on a
single source of anything (including software):
http://cyberdelix.net/opinions/microhuh.htm

The second article suggests that Microsoft should be liable for
damages, due to a) negligent coding that allows worms such as I
Love You and Melissa to propagate, and b) deliberately,
systematically undermining the market to prevent a better solution
from emerging:
http://cyberdelix.net/opinions/damages.htm

I have a series of articles collected from the net on the NSAKEY
issue:
http://cyberdelix.net/parvati/nsakey1.htm

Also, Bruce Scheiner in his most recent crypto-gram makes note
of the upcoming 'hacker insurance' industry.  Essentially, it'll cost
more to insure a Windows-based network, because it's less secure
than other platforms.  IMHO, this is sure to knock closed-source
software on the head, once and for all.

So, I'd say the trend is ... well, sell your M$ shares now.

Stuart :)

On 19 Mar 2001, at 10:56, Davide Ferrara wrote:

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Seems to me like some intel has either recently been confirmed or come to
top people's attention. This is the second article about a government
ceasing to use MS due to security/snooping concerns in the last few days.
The other country was China.  I wonder who is next.  I wonder the impact
this will have on MS and on security in general.

Has anyone else noticed a trend in this, or know more?

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German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping
By: John Lettice
Posted: 17/03/2001 at 18:59 GMT
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/17679.html



The German foreign office and Bundeswehr are pulling the plugs on
Microsoft
software, citing security concerns, according to the German news magazine
Der Spiegel. Spiegel claims that German security authorities suspect that
the US National Security Agency (NSA) has 'back door' access to Microsoft
source code, and can therefore easily read the Federal Republic's deepest
secrets.

The Bundeswehr will no longer use American software (we surmise this
includes Larry and Scott as well) on computers used in sensitive
areas. The
German foreign office has meanwhile put plans for
videoconferencing with its
overseas embassies on hold, for similar reasons. Under secretary of state
Gunter Pleuger is said by Spiegel to have discovered that "for technical
reasons" the satellite service that was to be used was routed via Denver,
Colorado.

According to a colleague of Pleuger's this meant that the German foreign
services "might as well hold our conferences directly in
Langley." We're not
entirely sure whose interesting video conferencing via satellite
service has
a vital groundstation in Denver, but we note that Pleuger seems to have
gleaned this information from a presentation held earlier this month in
Berlin by, er, Deutsche Telekom.

Which just happens, along with Siemens, to have picked up the gig. The two
companies have supplanted Microsoft (and anything else American)
and will be
producing a secure, home-grown system that the German military can be
confident in.

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