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Re Don’t shoot down our drones


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:01:11 +0900




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From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw () gmail com>
Date: September 12, 2018 at 11:47:33 GMT+9
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Don’t shoot down our drones

A different view on the situation -- the issue is not the drones, it's the access and the photography.

I think it's deplorable that drones are not banned from private property.  If someone is flying a drone in my back 
yard looking into my windows, I can apparently get arrested for capturing or disabling it.  This seems to be a quirk 
of legacy airspace restrictions that have not been thoughtfully revisited with drones in mind.

So I'm all for government transparency, and perhaps we need legislation providing access to government facilities to 
the press.  But drones are poorly regulated and what regulations do exist are not enforced.  So it's ok with me if we 
get legislation restricting where drones can go, IF AND ONLY IF those protections are available to everyone.  I 
object in general, as well as in this instance, to my government exempting itself from rules that apply to everyone 
else.

We should get this worked out before there's a steady stream of delivery drones shortcutting through my yard.

In other words, they should set some sensible restrictions on where drones can fly -- and apply those rules to 
everyone, everywhere.  
They also need to provide access to government sites within reasonable limits (no photography of minor children, 
security mechanisms, classified materials, ...)

Mary

Mary Shaw

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 7:32 PM DAVID FARBER <dfarber () me com> wrote:



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From: Elliot Harmon | EFF Activism Team <action () eff org>
Date: September 12, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM GMT+9
To: dfarber () me com
Subject: Don’t shoot down our drones
Reply-To: Elliot Harmon | EFF Activism Team <action () eff org>


This is a friendly message from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.





When government agencies hide their activities from the public, private drones can be a crucial tool for 
transparency and oversight. When the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) barred photographs and videos of its 
controversial detention centers, journalists were able to use drones to document abuses at those sites.

But right now, some lawmakers are working to dismantle this powerful reporting tool. A proposed law would give the 
DHS and the Department of Justice the power to intercept and destroy private drones it considers a “threat,” with 
no safeguards ensuring that that power isn’t abused.

To make it worse, members of Congress are expected to vote on these powers as part of a routine Federal Aviation 
Administration (FAA) reauthorization bill, with no chance for meaningful debate on how best to limit the 
government’s authority to intercept or destroy drones.

We can’t hand the right to take over or shoot down private drones to the DHS and DOJ, offices that are already 
notorious for their hostility to public oversight. Let’s tell Congress to reject the FAA authorization bill unless 
these powers are stripped from it.


Don't give DHS and DOJ free reign to shoot down private drones

Thank you,

Elliot Harmon
Activism Team
Electronic Frontier Foundation

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