Re Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Richard Berlin <rberlin () pacbell net>
> Date: January 19, 2018 at 1:43:01 AM EST
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: Re: [IP] Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store
>
> Dave:
>
> If I read the original description correctly, all of the data used by the app is sent by/from  a Wehe server. Netflix 
> et al. are not involved because this is “replay” data, not traffic coming freshly from their servers.
>
> The servers Wehe uses are serving traffic that is *labeled* the way Netflix is labeled, for example, and observing 
> the rate at which that traffic actually gets delivered. Their experiments showed that changing the labels changed the 
> rate at which the data arrived at the app.
>
> I am not an expert, but based on the above evidence, I buy the argument that bandwidth is already being prioritized 
> depending on what the type of the data is *assumed* to be.
>
> — Rich
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 18, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Dave Burstein <daveb () dslprime com>
> > Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IP] Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store
> > To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > The article is highly likely to be mistaken about throttling. The app detects the speed coming from Netflix as 4 
> > megabits. That corresponds to Netflix's frequent comment that they send video at 2-5 megabits. There is very little 
> > difference to the eye on even a large HD TV between 4 megabits and 20 megabits.
> >
> > The same is true of the other six examples. There is no reason for Netflix and others to send data faster than 
> > necessary for excellent playback.
> >
> > I (and you, and many on this list) have followed the networks closely. Throttling this extremely would have been 
> > obvious to us. 
> >
> > We all make mistakes, even computer science professors.
> >
> > Dave 
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
> >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
> > > Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:10 AM
> > > Subject: Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store
> > > To: Infowarrior List <infowarrior () attrition org>
> > > CC: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store
> > >
> > > Apple told a university professor his app "has no direct benefits to the user."
> > >
> > > https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5vn9k/apple-blocking-net-neutrality-app-wehe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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