Fwd: Re Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and murders a random bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet

["Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Charles Arthur <charles.arthur () gmail com>
Date: Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and
murders a random bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet
To: <dave () farber net>
CC: ip <ip () listbox com>


In the UK this is known as “joint enterprise” - the getaway driver of the
gang where one kills the cashier (pause: why didn’t that apply in a recent
film about a driver? Anyway).

I think it is harder to apply in this case. Did the caller *know* that what
he was doing would likely result in death? The gap between what he did -
make a call - and what happened couldn’t be predicted, unlike a getaway
driver for a robbery.

And nobody is asking questions about the actions of the police? I’m
astonished by that.


best
Charles
(written while mobile. May contain errors.)

On 31 Dec 2017, at 14:15, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:


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From: Tom Goltz <tgoltz () quietsoftware com>
Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and
murders a random bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet
To: <dave () farber net>
CC: Charles Arthur <charles.arthur () gmail com>


IANL, but this kind of criminal charge is routine, and usually stands up in
court:

https://www.nolo.com/dictionary/felony-murder-doctrine-term.html

An acquaintance from my childhood is currently serving life in prison for a
situation very similar to what is outlined in the definition above.  This
doesn't absolve the cop who pulled the trigger, but it isn't even necessary
to convict the cop of murder before convicting the hoaxer of felony murder.


On 12/31/2017 1:14 PM, Dave Farber wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Charles Arthur <charles.arthur () gmail com>
Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and
murders a random bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet
To: <dave () farber net>
CC: ip <ip () listbox com>


Just to be utterly clear on this - the guy who called in the SWAT team
didn’t pull a trigger. Saying he committed murder is surely not going to
stand up in court. The person with their hand on the gun was a police
officer who shot and killed an innocent person without any justification.
The US needs to consider why it in effect has an armed militia going around
prepared to kill people on the say-so of a phone call.

best
Charles
(written while mobile. May contain errors.)

On 30 Dec 2017, at 12:55, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and
murders a random bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet
To: <nnsquad () nnsquad org>



Hoaxer with a history of fake bomb threats SWATs and murders a random
bystander over a $1.50 Call of Duty bet

https://boingboing.net/2017/12/30/murder-by-cop.html

        Last night, Andrew Finch, a 28 year old man in Wichita, was
        shot dead by police after they received a false call about a
        home invasion, a call that appears to have originated with
        Tyler Raj Barriss, a 25-year-old Los Angeles man whose gamer
        handle was "SWAuTistic," and who was later arrested by LAPD on
        a fugitive warrant stemming from bomb threats he phoned in to
        ABC7, an LA police station. Barriss has a long history of
        swatting and threats to swat.  The swatting seems to have been
        the result of a disagreement among two Call of Duty teammates
        after a loss in an online match that had a $1.50 wager riding
        on it.

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