Re JP Morgan Chase just got a patent on basic app communications

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

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> From: Gregory Aharonian <greg.aharonian () gmail com>
> Date: September 1, 2017 at 1:31:37 PM EDT
> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] JP Morgan Chase just got a patent on basic app communications
>
> Dave,
>
> Lauren's outrage about the JPMorgan patent is justified, but misdirected.  The US Patent and Trademark Office is a 
> very "good" government agency, if by "good" you mean to do you are instructed to do by the Administration (for 
> example, its bosses in the Commerce Department), and by Congress. And frankly, that isn't a bad definition of what a 
> good government agency should be - to implement what it is instructed to implement.  Do we want government agencies 
> going off willy-nilly doing whatever they want?  Not really.
>
> Since no one in the last 25 years from the Administration and Congress has instructed to the USPTO to improve patent 
> quality - it hasn't.  Since no one in any Administration nor Congress has ever understood the patent system, these 
> two institutions defer to the wishes of corporate America and the patent bar.  Since no one (tons of pablum aside) in 
> corporate America nor the patent bar has "asked" the Administration and Congress to instruct the USPTO to improve 
> patent quality, patent quality has not changed.  The USPTO is doing what it is being told to do - nothing.
>
> Actually it is worse.  Not only does Congress not instruct the USPTO to improve patent quality, in many years, 
> Congress has stolen some of the fees that the USPTO receives from patent applicants, tens to hundreds of millions of 
> dollars in stolen fees, so Congress can fund its latest idiocy.  So even if the USPTO wanted to improve patent 
> quality, not only does it not have the funds for new initiatives to improve quality, it is having its existing funds 
> stolen, one result being less resources for examiners to examine.
>
> I have watched this farce for 25 years, and nothing has changed.
>
> Here is an oddity to consider.  One of the most sophisticated compilers of scientific information is the National 
> Library of Medicine (with their excellent PubMed database).  Indeed, one reason biochempharma patents are of higher 
> quality is that USPTO examiners do use this excellent database (the U.S. government has never seen fit to create a 
> National Library of Engineering to then build a PubEng).
>
> Yet, despite there being millions of "Pub"lished "Med" patents in the USPTO databases, for the most part, PubMed does 
> not list any of these patents in their databases (which you would think is an obvious thing to do - to more tightly 
> link med articles with med patents).  Why doesn't PubMed want to add patents to its databases?  Simple - it doesn't 
> want to pollute the quality of its PubMed database with the low quality of medical/biological/chemical patents issued 
> by the USPTO (Lauren is wrong in thinking that just the software patents are problematical).
>
> When the next recession/depression hits, the U.S. is going to need real innovation, quality innovation, technological 
> innovation (and not the financial innovation that is the basis for "innovators" such as Tesla and Theranos). We are 
> going to need this real, quality, technological innovation to create new jobs and industries.  It is here where 
> patents could provide a very important role in directing future investments, public and private, towards quality 
> innovation and their patents.
>
> That information will be lacking in the next recession/depression.
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg Aharonian
> Internet Patent News Service
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
> > > Date: September 1, 2017 at 11:44:39 AM EDT
> > > To: nnsquad () nnsquad org
> > > Subject: [ NNSquad ] JP Morgan Chase just got a patent on basic app communications
> > >
> > >
> > > JP Morgan Chase just got a patent on basic app communications
> > >
> > > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/jp-morgan-chase-just-got-a-patent-on-basic-app-communications/
> > >
> > >    "How was such a broad and obvious idea allowed to be
> > >    patented?" asks EFF patent attorney Daniel Nazer. "As we have
> > >    explained many times before, the Patent Office seems to
> > >    operate in an alternate universe where the only evidence of
> > >    the state of the art in software is found in patents. Indeed,
> > >    the examiner considered only patents and patent applications
> > >    when reviewing JP Morgan's application. It's no wonder the
> > >    office gets it so wrong."
> >
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