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Datapoints re: Re Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:53:18 -0400




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From: Dave Burstein <daveb () dslprime com>
Date: October 9, 2017 at 12:47:14 AM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Datapoints re: [IP] Re Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons

Dave

This from the Times today would seem to support Ellen's point.

Luis Ferré-Sadurní‏ @luisferre  8h8 hours ago
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Luis Ferré-Sadurní Retweeted La Fortaleza
12% of Puerto Rico had power yesterday. That went down to 7% today because of a power fault in a San Juan station.

But Medscape, a respected and professionally edited site, had this. 

By October 5, 64 of the 69 hospitals on the island had reopened, not all up to full speed, and 17 were on the power 
grid, with the remainder using generators. 

which corresponded to an estimate I've seen that 30% of Puerto Ricans have working cellphones. I saw numerous reports 
of massive numbers of generators being delivered. 

So getting the Loons up there should do some good, especially as things get a little better.

Incidentally, I respect Loon and similar but expect them to have less impact for a wonderful reason: mobile is 
expanding at an almost unbelievable rate.

Myanmar is close to 90% covered, with a new carrier promising LTE to 95% soon. Jio has LTE to 85% of India and is 
pushing to raise that to 95% in 2018. Included 2G & 3G, I bet India is already in the high 90+% range. 

Which doesn't solve the last 5%, but is much better than, for example, Facebook used planning their program.

Dave


On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



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From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () gmail com>
Date: October 8, 2017 at 12:53:51 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () gmail com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons

Dave,

For IP.

I disagree with Ellen on this.  Puerto Rico does not working power grid, but that doesn’t mean that no one has any 
electricity.  The problem of people charging their cell phone is a much simpler problem than restoring the Puerto 
Rico cell phone networks.  Many people will be able to find a way to charge their phones.  It can be done with a 
portable generator, in a car, solar, etc.  For example, there have been several news reports about people driving 
around the island to find some cell phone service.  If they can do that, they can charge their phone.

Bob



On Oct 7, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:




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From: Ellen Ullman <ullman () well com>
Date: October 7, 2017 at 3:28:23 PM EDT
To: dave <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons
Reply-To: Ellen Ullman <ullman () well com>

A reply for IP, if you wish.

The Loon Balloons are a perfect example of billionaires "fixing" problems from on high, literally in this case, 
without a hard look at what is happening on the real ground beneath them, where the solutions are daunting. The 
last I looked, most of P.R. had no power. So unless Google and Tesla will help to restore electrical services to 
most of the island, the people of Puerto Rico can watch the shiny balloons shifting with the wind currents in the 
sky above them. But too bad if they need to charge their phones.

From: "DAVID J. FARBER" <farber () gmail com>
To: "ip" <ip () listbox com>
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 10:53:04 AM
Subject: [IP] Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons




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From: jonathan.spira () accuramediagroup com
Date: October 7, 2017 at 12:56:16 PM EDT
To: dfarber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons

Dave

Good use of the public airwaves:

Google to Provide Cellphone Service to Storm-Ravaged Puerto Rico Using Balloons

http://accura.cc/2b8v8c

"Google’s parent company received permission on Friday to provide emergency mobile phone service to Puerto Rico 
using solar-powered balloons...
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