Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ben Burke <ben () eff org>
> Date: September 27, 2017 at 9:07:53 PM EDT
> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th
>
> The implication of the "calm down / this is no big deal" response is that people should have always known to only 
> post things to social media that will reflect well on their hypothetical potential future business with the 
> government.
>
> But that is nearly impossible considering that a user's attempts at humor or sarcasm may not be accounted for when 
> their post is reviewed, that the time & full context of a user's post cannot be considered, that technical or 
> comprehension errors may occur in the interpretation of a user's posts (particularly if their post isn't entirely in 
> English), that the future administration evaluating their post might have unreasonable ideas about the subject of a 
> user's post (for example the silly notion that BLM is a terrorist organization), that users often accidentally 
> mis-post, and that users often change their minds particularly when they've had a chance to do more thinking about a 
> topic. Coupling life-changing consequences to frivolous social media use won't serve us well.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder () opus1 com>
> > Date: September 27, 2017 at 11:56:57 AM EDT
> > To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () listbox com>, patrick () ianai net
> > Subject: Re: [IP] Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th
> >
> > The proposed change is not related to the visa issuance process; this is targeted towards immigrants.
> >
> > The Gizmodo article is ridiculously over-the-top in its interpretation of the change that is being proposed and the 
> > potential issues.
> >
> > Anyone who doesn't think that it is fair game for the USG to ask for your social media handles and email addresses 
> > and a ton of other very, very personal information before allowing immigration is living in a fantasy-land of 
> > ignorance.  Social media handles (not passwords mind you, just handles) are one of the least intrusive things that 
> > happen to someone when they ask to immigrate to the United States.
> >
> > I realize that everyone is on a hair trigger about immigration, tourism, and refugees right now, but taking a notice 
> > that there's now a place in the database schema for social media handles in your immigration file and blowing it up 
> > into this nonsense is not helping the discussion any.
> >
> > Regarding Gilmore's comment: he should have read the notice, not the article.
> >
> > jms



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