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Re MIT Tech Review: AI's PR Problem
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 03:35:51 +0000
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Gregory Aharonian <greg.aharonian () gmail com> Date: Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [IP] MIT Tech Review: AI's PR Problem To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Dave, The semantic problem is simple. "Artificial Intelligence" really is "Automated Intelligence". While there many fine definitions of "automated" and "automation" in a variety of social and business contexts, based on science and engineering, there is no generally accepted scientific or engineering definition, in any context, of "intelligence". So if someone tells you they have an AI system, solution or software, then ask them what their definition of "intelligence" is. If they don't have one, what they have isn't AI. What most of these systems are are "Automated Behavior", that is, find a form of human behavior and automate it anyway possible, without or without a theory. Machine vision, flipping hamburgers, driving trucks, diagnosing skin cancer - all very interesting, complicated behaviors. Find enough data, find some algorithms, throw them against the (cloud) wall, and hope one combination sticks enough to make some money (sadly, more money by destroying more jobs). But "intelligence"? The appearance of, yes. The actuality, no. The patent world is plagued by this semantic problem as well. Routinely, judges are invalidating software patents by saying they are nothing more than a series of "mental steps", even though neuroscientists are quite clear that there is nothing in the human mind that one can label "mental steps". Why? "Mental steps" is equivalent to "Intelligence steps", which returns us to the lack of definition of "intelligence". Judges are thus acting unethically by using an undefined word to kill private patent rights. Where is the intelligence here? Is it intelligent to act unethically? Or is it intelligent to act unethically to get rid of a patent lawsuit that you don't want to think about. These are all good terms to abuse for marketing and judicial purposes, but they lack definition and they lack any basis in neuroscience. That doesn't mean that purported "AI" systems are not a huge social threat, because the tools to automated human behaviors are becoming more and more powerful. And the people behind these tools have little to no social ethic. The combination is not good, because it is becoming easier to destroy huge numbers of jobs much quicker than society can adjust. Which doesn't seem an intelligent thing to do. Greg Aharonian Internet Patent News Service On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:36 PM, DAVID FARBER <dfarber () me com> wrote: That's what happens when you use the term AI Bad idea. djf Begin forwarded message: *From:* Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> *Date:* March 12, 2017 at 5:21:56 PM EDT *To:* nnsquad () nnsquad org *Subject:* *[ NNSquad ] MIT Tech Review: AI's PR Problem* MIT Tech Review: AI's PR Problem https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603761/ais-pr-problem/ Artificial intelligence, it seems, has a PR problem. While it's true that today's machines can credibly perform many tasks (playing chess, driving cars) that were once reserved for humans, that doesn't mean that the machines are growing more intelligent and ambitious. It just means they're doing what we built them to do. The robots may be coming, but they are not coming for us--because there is no "they." Machines are not people, and there's no persuasive evidence that they are on a path toward sentience. - - - --Lauren-- Your Google Experiences - Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/19988453-bcb8aa4d> | Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20170312173646:FC06B44C-076B-11E7-A4FF-BB1BC7AB8BD0> <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20170312233612:308A2226-079E-11E7-BE09-D0BAD01788F5 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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