Re GoDaddy finally took down neo-Nazi website & Google booted it next

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: DV Henkel-Wallace <gumby () henkel-wallace org>
> Date: August 15, 2017 at 12:48:16 PM EDT
> To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] GoDaddy finally took down neo-Nazi website & Google booted it next
>
> Dave,
>
> I have been surprised at the replies to blocking these creeps.  We're ignoring the pragmatic value in keeping racism 
> in the public eye.
>
> Sure, denying these losers a soapbox does make it hard for the impressionable to find them.  But it also makes it 
> hard for everyone else to find them too, to our detriment.  It also helps the bad guys by giving them "martyrdom" 
> legitimacy to their audience.  This has been well exploited by other minority ideological terrorists as well, such as 
> Christian or Muslim terrorists.
>
>
> We've seen this in various AGs' attacks on sites like craigslist and backpage in a war on human trafficking (and 
> moralism).  Yes, it hurts people who want to simply engage in consenting activities but it also makes it harder to 
> find and intervene in human trafficking!
>
> We've seen that driving drug activity underground (whether in the alcohol prohibition era or today) makes it harder 
> to help people at actual risk (and of course sweeps up those who are blameless).  It provides a subsidy to drugs 
> traffickers.
>
> Et al.
>
>
>
> In the calculus of things most wonderful (and not) about the United States, I've found the (sometimes wavering) 
> commitment to free speech, including horrible speech, as likely its greatest triumph.  And not just for the easy, 
> "glorious" reasons typically cited, but for ordinary, pragmatic reasons.
>
> Godaddy, as a non-monopolist, is free to do business with whomever it wants.  Certainly I don't want to do business 
> with racist creeps or those who actively support them.  But let's not mistake pushing them away for the elimination 
> of their odious opinions.
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:38, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > From: Kimi Wei <kimi () thewei com>
> > > Subject: GoDaddy finally took down neo-Nazi website & Google booted it next
> > > Date: August 14, 2017 at 2:36:42 PM EDT
> > > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > >
> > > https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2017/08/14/godaddy-kicks-out-neo-nazi-website-the-daily-stormer/563949001/
> > >
> > > GoDaddy kicks out neo-Nazi website 'The Daily Stormer’
> > >
> > > Web hosting company GoDaddy pulls the plug on neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer. Veuer's Maria Mercedes Galuppo 
> > > (@mariamgaluppo) has more. Buzz60
> > >
> > > PHOENIX — GoDaddy, which is the largest Internet domain-name seller in the world, announced Sunday evening it will 
> > > no longer provide service to the neo-Nazi website, The Daily Stormer. 
> > >
> > > The company (GDDY), which is based in Scottsdale, Ariz., has drawn criticism for months for its willingness to 
> > > provide a domain name for a website "dedicated to spreading anti-Semitism, neo-Nazism, and white nationalism," 
> > > according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. 
> > >
> > > The move comes after The Daily Stormer published an article Sunday using sexist and obscene language to demean 
> > > Heather Heyer, the 32-year-old woman who was killedwhen a car driven by an alleged white supremacist mowed down a 
> > > crowd of people after a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va. 
> > >
> > > After it was removed from Go Daddy, The Daily Stormer switched its domain registration to Google, according to 
> > > public search records. But after several hours, a Google spokesperson told Reuters that the website violates its 
> > > terms of service and has since also removed.
> > >
> > > After someone tweeted a reference to the article asking GoDaddy to remove it and ban the site, GoDaddy replied, "We 
> > > informed The Daily Stormer that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another provider, as they have violated 
> > > our terms of service."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > People gathered in Charlottesville, Virginia to remember Heather Heyer, the woman killed when a car rammed into a 
> > > group of demonstrators on Saturday. (Aug. 14) AP
> > >
> > > GoDaddy corporate spokesman Dan Race confirmed the action in an email to The Arizona Republic, which like USA TODAY 
> > > is a part of the USA TODAY Network. 
> > >
> > > Previously, the company served "as the domain name registrar for The Daily Stormer, through its subsidiary Domains 
> > > by Proxy, as it has throughout the site’s four-year history," according to the investigative news website, Reveal. 
> > >
> > > Kimi Wei
> > > kimi () thewei com  @kimiwei
> > > facebook.com/thekimiwei
> > > 862-203-8814
> >
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