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Do read. -- Re One of Google's highest-ranking women has answered that controversial memo with a very personal essay
From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:10:53 -0400
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From: Date: August 10, 2017 at 10:18:19 AM EDT To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] One of Google's highest-ranking women has answered that controversial memo with a very personal essay Reply-To: Dave I thought the twitter thread below answers it well. For once, for the first time, I ask if you forward this to make it anonymous. Because this is exactly the kind of dialogue that is not really allowed because it makes powerful people uncomfortable, people who are used to comfort. And I do not feel like being the target of anyone's rage over this. If you cannot strip my UID, just do not use it. Thanks for all you do. This list is such an enhancement to my life. Guys, https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/895497189304156161 Imagine reading this twitter thread every week, or hearing the statistics in it read to you. Two or three times a month try defending that you are not a rapist -- not violent despite strong statistical evidence. Imagine every meeting you go to someone is looking at you thinking, "Dude. Wonder if he is a rapist." Imagine that your comments get cut off and ideas claimed by others because the underlying belief is you are just another stupid rapist who no one should really take seriously. Then substitute "incompetent and emotional" for "rapist". And you will get a sense of the actual context of the Google document and the millions more comments like it. You would get tired of being accused of what you are not, and after a while refuse to address why you yourself are not a rapist and should not get treated as one. That would make you difficult and an enemy of free speech. After a while you would feel unjustly accused. If you start asking people to be decent about it and treat you as an individual human, a decent competent human being, well that would be "politically correct."On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote: Begin forwarded message:From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com> Date: August 10, 2017 at 3:22:45 AM EDT To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] One of Google's highest-ranking women has answered that controversial memo with a very personal essay Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com One of Google’s highest-ranking women has answered that controversial memo with a very personal essay By Jena McGregor Aug 9 2017 <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2017/08/09/one-of-googles-highest-ranking-women-has-answered-that-controversial-memo-with-a-very-personal-essay/> Like many Google leaders, Susan Wojcicki probably faced some difficult questions from employees this week about the controversial employee memo that exploded on social media. But the most personal question may have come from her daughter. In an essay published by Fortune on Wednesday, the chief executive of YouTube, which is owned by Google, wrote that her daughter asked her about the memo, which raised questions about Google's diversity efforts and included statements about gender differences. It was written by a company engineer who was fired earlier this week in its aftermath. “Mom,” her daughter asked her, “is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?” Before revealing how she answered her daughter, Wojcicki said the question has been “pervasive,” based on her experience. “That question, whether it's been asked outright, whispered quietly, or simply lingered in the back of someone's mind, has weighed heavily on me throughout my career in technology.” She wrote that she's had her abilities and job commitment questioned, been left out of industry events and social gatherings, watched as outside leaders addressed her more junior colleagues in meetings and been interrupted and ignored. “No matter how often this all happened, it still hurt,” she wrote. As a result, “I thought about the women at Google who are now facing a very public discussion about their abilities, sparked by one of their own co-workers,” she wrote. “And as my child asked me the question I’d long sought to overcome in my own life, I thought about how tragic it was that this unfounded bias was now being exposed to a new generation.” Wojcicki also directly addressed the engineer's dismissal. “As a company that has long supported free expression, Google obviously stands by the right that employees have to voice, publish or tweet their opinions,” she wrote. “But while people may have a right to express their beliefs in public, that does not mean companies cannot take action when women are subjected to comments that perpetuate negative stereotypes about them based on their gender.” She also raised the question of “what if we replaced the word 'women' in the memo with another group?” — such as black, Hispanic or LGBTQ employees. “Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo's arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author?” In writing the essay, Wojcicki becomes the highest-ranking women at Google to address the matter publicly, adding a key female executive's voice to the company leadership's response. While Danielle Brown, Google's vice president of diversity, integrity and governance released a statement earlier this week, saying that “like many of you, I found that it advanced incorrect assumptions about gender,” Wojcicki's was much more personal. After thinking about all these issues, she wrote, “I looked at my daughter and answered simply. 'No, it’s not true.' ” The author of the memo, which was first circulated on an internal network and then went viral online, wrote that “differences in distributions of traits between men and women may in part explain why we don’t have 50 percent representation of women in tech and leadership.” He wrote that “I value diversity and inclusion, am not denying that sexism exists, and don’t endorse using stereotypes” and said that “I'm not saying that all men differ from women in the following ways or that these differences are 'just.' ” But he also said that women, on average, have more extroversion “expressed as gregariousness rather than assertiveness” and “higher agreeableness,” which “leads to women generally having a harder time negotiating salary, asking for raises, speaking up and leading.” He wrote that women on average have “higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance,” and “look for more work-life balance.” In a memo late Monday to employees, Google CEO Sundar Pichai wrote that “portions of the memo violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.” [snip] Dewayne-Net RSS Feed: http://dewaynenet.wordpress.com/feed/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/wa8dzp
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