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re A Googler's Would-Be Manifesto Reveals Tech's Rotten Core


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:04:40 -0400



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Subject: Re: [IP] A Googler's Would-Be Manifesto Reveals Tech's Rotten Core
Date: August 6, 2017 at 5:55:03 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com>

David: please list this as an anonymous post and remove my name/contact info.

To those of us in the tech world who are in the minority, this "manifesto" is no surprise. We've been facing this 
attitude for years: originally very 
overt, now subliminal by those who think they're "blind" to gender expression, race and ageism. 

As a female over 30, it's been a tough going in high technology: tech workers have not been kind to my tribe. 
Numerous gropes, innuendos, missed invitations and countless 8 hour interviews with America's finest corporate brain 
trust all with the same result. Interviewed by no technical females, no minorities and, with the exception of the 
bosses who introduced me to the team, no one is ever over 40. 

How does this happen? As with synergy, the whole of discrimination is more than the sum of its parts. It's the 
classic combination of institutional practices and individual behaviors: intentional and subtle discrimination, 
followed by statistical profiling and organization culture. The candidate's background must be above reproach: the 
degree and institution must be of a certain pedigree, the good news is this is true of most positions, although 
hopefully this may be changing. When 1st tier Corporate America receives multi-million applications, Bekeley, MIT, 
Cal Tech and CMU graduates float to the top of the stack and get the call. Questions during the interview often 
reflect the knowledge of the interviewer in a legitimate attempt to ascertain the capabilities/knowledge of the 
candidate, whether or not that interviewer has a clue as to the duties of the position or the qualities for  success: 
he get a vote in the process. Implicit discrimination runs rampant during the interaction. The minority candidate 
does not have the opportunity to ask any sensitive questions regarding the workplace, and must keep all lines of 
inquiry generic, least one be labeled as trouble. The opportunity for discrimination has an infinite parts list with 
the sum replayed in the release of hiring statistics, typically followed by "we need to do better".

Rejected by Corporate America as a candidate, yet hired by Corporate America as a consultant, by the very same 
interviewers who rejected the candidate, is what puts bread on the family table. I hold no bitterness, just a hope 
for the future generations of minorities to have a better experience, although I'm not holding my breath on this one. 
And this is simply the interview/hiring process -- don't get me started on the realities of "once hired" as a 
minority.

Anonymous



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From: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com>
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Subject: [IP] A Googler's Would-Be Manifesto Reveals Tech's Rotten Core

One person (i think) condemns a company!!!!! REALLY  DJF

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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com <mailto:dewayne () warpspeed com>>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] A Googler's Would-Be Manifesto Reveals Tech's Rotten Core
Date: August 6, 2017 at 12:27:12 PM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com <mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>>
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A Googler's Would-Be Manifesto Reveals Tech's Rotten Core
Office culture is only part of the problem.
By IAN BOGOST
Aug 6 2017
<https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/why-is-tech-so-awful/536052/ 
<https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/why-is-tech-so-awful/536052/>>

An anonymous Google software engineer’s 10-page fulmination against workplace diversity was leaked from internal 
company communications systems, including an internal version of Google+, the company’s social network, and another 
service that Gizmodo, which published the full memo, called an “internal meme network.”

“I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to 
biological causes,” the Googler writes, “and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal 
representation of women in tech and leadership.”

The memo has drawn rage and dismay since its appearance Saturday, when it was first reported by Motherboard. It 
seemed to dash hopes that much progress has been made in unraveling the systemic conditions that produce and 
perpetuate inequity in the technology industry. That includes increasing the distribution of women and minorities in 
technical jobs, equalizing pay, breaking the glass ceiling, and improving the quality of life in workplaces that 
sometimes resemble frat houses more than businesses.

These reactions to the screed are sound, but they risk missing a larger problem: The kind of computing systems that 
get made and used by people outside the industry, and with serious consequences, are a direct byproduct of the gross 
machismo of computing writ large. More women and minorities are needed in computing because the world would be 
better for their contributions—and because it might be much worse without them.

* * *

Workplace equity has become a more visible issue in general, but it has reached fever pitch in the technology 
sector, especially with respect to women. When the former Uber engineer Susan Fowler published an explosive 
accusation of sexism at that company earlier this year, people took notice. When combined with a series of other 
scandals, not to mention with Uber’s longstanding, dubious behavior toward drivers and municipalities, the company 
was forced to act. CEO Travis Kalanick was ousted (although he remains on the board, where he retains substantial 
control).

Given the context, it’s reasonable to sneer at the anonymous Googler’s simple grievances against workplace 
diversity. Supposedly natural differences between men and women make them suited for different kinds of work, he 
argues. Failure to accept this condition casts the result as inequality, he contends, and then as oppression. 
Seeking to correct for it amounts to discrimination. Rejecting these premises constitutes bias, or stymies open 
discourse. The Googler does not reject the idea of increasing diversity in some way. However, he laments what he 
considers discriminatory practices instituted to accomplish those goals, among them hiring methods designed to 
increase the diversity of candidate pools and training or mentoring efforts meant to better support 
under-represented groups.

Efforts like these are necessary in the first place because diversity is so bad in the technology industry to begin 
with. Google publishes a diversity report, which reveals that the company’s workforce is currently comprised of 31 
percent women, with 20 percent working in technical fields. Those numbers are roughly on par with the tech sector as 
a whole, where about a quarter of workers are women.

Racial and ethnic diversity are even worse—and so invisible that they barely register as a problem for the anonymous 
Googler. I was chatting about the memo with my Georgia Tech colleague Charles Isbell, who is Executive Associate 
Dean of the College of Computing and the only black tenure-track faculty member among over 80 in this top-ten 
ranking program.

“Nothing about why black and Hispanic men aren’t software engineers?” he asked me after reading the letter, 
paraphrasing another black computer scientist, Duke’s Jeffrey R.N. Forbes. “Did I glaze over that bit?” Isbell knows 
that Google’s meager distribution of women  far outshines its terrible racial diversity. Only 2 percent of all U.S. 
Googlers are black, and only 4 percent are Hispanic. In tech-oriented positions, the numbers fall to 1 percent and 3 
percent, respectively. (Unlike the gender data, which is global, the ethnic diversity data is for the U.S. only.)

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