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Re A $2 Million Contest Seeks Solutions to Big Internet Challenges


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:13:40 -0400




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From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Date: August 29, 2017 at 1:00:37 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] A $2 Million Contest Seeks Solutions to Big Internet Challenges

Dave, and everyone:

There are good reasons why a network of refrigerators (or cell phones!) wouldn't replace the current Internet in the 
event of a failure. Mesh networks are woefully inefficient and slow, and would quickly saturate due to destructive 
competition for available spectrum and bandwidth-hogging apps running on the very devices that created them. True 
resiliency requires sound engineering and analysis, regulation of bandwidth demand as well as supply, and traffic 
management which is not available by default in the primitive TCP/IP protocol suite.

As for the "off the grid" challenge: WISPs are already solving this problem. WISPs mobilized to provide 
communications in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and will likely do so again in the wake of Hurricane Harvey. 
(I've already volunteered to participate in relief efforts if my services are required.)

Thus, both of these challenges start with misstatements of the problems for which they seek solutions, and then go on 
to suggest "solutions" which have long been proven not to work in the real world whilst ignoring ones that have 
actually worked. 

--Brett Glass

At 05:22 AM 8/26/2017, you wrote:
 



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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com >
Date: August 26, 2017 at 7:07:46 AM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net < dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] A $2 Million Contest Seeks Solutions to Big Internet Challenges
Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com 

[Note:  This item comes from friend Gary Rimar.  DLH]

A $2 Million Contest Seeks Solutions to Big Internet Challenges
While the fictional geniuses in HBO’s “Silicon Valley” aim to reinvent the Internet, Mozilla and the NSF hope prize 
money will attract real-world innovations
By TEKLA S. PERRY
Aug 23 2017
< http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/a-2-million-contest-seeks-solutions-to-big-internet-challenges >

In the season finale of HBO’s television series “Silicon Valley,” fictional startup company Pied Piper’s attempt to 
create a decentralized Internet appears to have failed spectacularly, thanks to mobile-phone explosions and a 
disastrous attempt to move a server. But then the distraught founders discover that their network is actually 
ticking along just fine. How? It turns out that the network has jumped to smart refrigerators. Now that’s resilient!

The Internet of Refrigerators is, of course, fiction. But could an Internet that is this resilient­or nearly 
so­become a reality? Mozilla and the U.S. National Science Foundation think it’s possible, and they aim to 
accelerate its creation by offering US $2 million in prize money to the teams that invent it­or at least get close.

“We’ve picked two of the most challenging situations in which people are disconnected from the Internet,” Mozilla 
program manager Mehan Jayasuriya told me. These are “connecting people in the U.S. who don’t have reliable or 
affordable Internet, and connecting people as quickly as possible after a major disaster, when the traditional 
networks go down.”

Mozilla and the NSF are addressing that first group­an estimated 34 million people­with the “Smart-Community 
Networks Challenge.” It seeks wireless technology designed to enhance Internet connectivity by building on top of 
existing infrastructure.

For the second group, there’s the “Off-the-Grid Internet Challenge.” This contest is seeking technology that can be 
quickly deployed after a disaster to allow people to communicate if and when Internet access is gone.

The teams submit initial designs and then, later, working prototypes. Prizes at the design stage range from $10,000 
to $60,000. At the working prototype stage, the stakes range from $50,000 to $400,000, with a top award given for 
each challenge category.

“A lot of projects out there address some parts of these problems,” says Jayasuriya. “With $2 million on the table, 
we are hoping this challenge encourages people to fill their technologies out.”

Were HBO’s Pied Piper an actual company, it would have a decent chance at winning some of that cash. Says 
Jayasuriya: “It’s the kind of thing we are looking for­a big idea, a crazy idea, an idea about how you piggyback on 
things that already exist. Pied Piper’s approach is like that, looking at all the phones out there and thinking 
that these phones have radios, and power, and CPUs, so why wouldn’t you take them and turn them into nodes on a 
network?”

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