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Re DOJ walks back demand for information on anti-Trump website BUT issues remain


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:57:39 -0400




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From: Paul Alan Levy <plevy () citizen org>
Date: August 23, 2017 at 3:39:51 PM EDT
To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: RE: [IP] DOJ walks back demand for information on anti-Trump website BUT issues remain

The limitation of the search warrant so that it no longer seeks IP addresses of web site viewers is welcome, but a 
significant free speech issue remains:  the  warrant still seeks to compel production of all emails sent to the web 
site.  The Government’s reply brief is a bit equivocal on the issue – it described such emails as something about 
which the Government learned for the first time dfrom DreamHost’s briefs, and the brief then suggests that this is 
information that the government no longer demands – but there has been no corresponding change in the language of the 
revised search warrant that the Government has asked the judge to approve. And seeking to compel identification of 
the senders of those emails raises significant free speech issues
 
http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2017/08/trump-administration-backs-off-on-identifying-anonymous-web-site-viewers-but-important-free-speech-i.html
 
Paul Alan Levy
Public Citizen Litigation Group
1600 20th Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20009
(202) 588-7725
https://www.citizen.org/our-work/litigation/internet-free-speech
Twitter:  @paulalanlevy
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From: Dave Farber [mailto:farber () gmail com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:08 PM
To: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: [IP] DOJ walks back demand for information on anti-Trump website
 
 


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From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
Subject: DOJ walks back demand for information on anti-Trump website
Date: August 22, 2017 at 6:20:21 PM EDT
To: Infowarrior List <infowarrior () attrition org>
Cc: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
 

Justice Department walks back demand for information on anti-Trump website

Colin Lecher

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/22/16186474/justice-department-trump-ip-addresses-requests

After controversy over a broad search warrant that could have identified visitors to an anti-Trump website, the 
Justice Department says it’s scaling back a demand for information from hosting service DreamHost.

The Justice Department says it will carve out exceptions to the request

Last week, DreamHost disclosed that it was involved in a legal dispute with the department over access to records on 
the website “disruptj20.org,” which organized protests tied to Donald Trump’s inauguration. The warrant issued by the 
department was so broad, DreamHost said, that it was effectively requesting information that could identify lawful 
protestors — including information on more than 1.3 million IP addresses from visitors to the site. The warrant 
immediately drew condemnation from some privacy law experts.

In a legal filing today, the Justice Department argues that the warrant was proper, but also says DreamHost has since 
brought up information that was previously “unknown.” In light of that, it has offered to carve out information 
demanded in the warrant, specifically pledging to not request information like HTTP logs tied to IP addresses.

The department says it is only looking for information related to criminal activity on the site, and says that “the 
government is focused on the use of the Website to organize, to plan, and to effect a criminal act — that is, a 
riot.” Peaceful protestors, the government argues, are not the targets of the warrant.

The filing asks the court to proceed with the new, less burdensome request, which, apart from the carved-out 
sections, still requests “all records or other information, pertaining to the Account, including all files, 
databases, and database records stored by DreamHost in relation to that Account.”

It’s unclear if DreamHost will continue to fight the new demand. The company did not immediately respond to a request 
for comment.
 
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